Realgm Fantasy Football Thread

Post #1 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:47 pm

Draft Order

1. Team Ayatollah
2. Mamba Mentality
3. Team Murph
4. Team Jwise
5. Goober’s Goobers
6. Team Ballerhogger
7. bwgood 77
8. Cactus
9. Team Diehardfan
10. Hired Expert
11. AZ azcatz11
12. Team El Turco

Post #2 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:59 pm

What's new!?

I've added an OP "Offensive player", along with a DP "Defensive player".

With the "OP", you have the option of having a 2nd QB or any offensive player (Flex) of your choice.

Roster
QB
RB (2)
WR (2)
TE
Flex
OP (1 Offensive starter)- QB/Flex
DP (1 Defensive starter)
D/ST
K

Bench (7)
IR (2)

azcatz11 · Post #3 » by **azcatz11** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:06 pm

Im in!!!

azcatz11 · Post #4 » by **azcatz11** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:13 pm

Is this PPR or are you going to forget again lol

Post #5 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:13 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Is this PPR or are you going to forget again lol

Yes

Mamba Mentality · Post #6 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:32 pm

I might be interested. Don't really like the defensive player addition though...I tried it out a couple seasons ago and it was a major fail. I'd much rather have another flex spot.

Post #7 » by **jwise44** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:50 pm

I’m in and I like the dp addition

azcatz11 · Post #8 » by **azcatz11** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:19 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:I might be interested. Don't really like the defensive player addition though...I tried it out a couple seasons ago and it was a major fail. I'd much rather have another flex spot.

What was bad about it? I've personally never played in a league with DP so it intrigued me....something a little fresh

Mamba Mentality · Post #9 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:33 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:I might be interested. Don't really like the defensive player addition though...I tried it out a couple seasons ago and it was a major fail. I'd much rather have another flex spot.

What was bad about it? I've personally never played in a league with DP so it intrigued me....something a little fresh

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/matchup analysis aspect out of fantasy imo. They're like kickers but more unpredictable.

azcatz11 · Post #10 » by **azcatz11** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:38 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:I might be interested. Don't really like the defensive player addition though...I tried it out a couple seasons ago and it was a major fail. I'd much rather have another flex spot.

What was bad about it? I've personally never played in a league with DP so it intrigued me....something a little fresh

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/due diligence aspect out of fantasy imo.

I would assume LB's / Edge rushers would be the most valued? I could obviously google but I'm opening dialogue lol

Post #11 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:53 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:What's new!?

This is now a 2QB league. I've also added a DP (Defensive player Utility) starter. Where you have the option to choose any 1 defensive player. (12 Starters, 7 Bench, 2 IR)

Roster
QB's- (2)
RB's- (2)
RB/WR
WR's- (2)
TE
Flex
DP (Defensive player)- (1)
D/ST
K

I thought you hated those 2 qb leagues with individual defensive players?? So instead you created your own and copy later?

Post #12 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:58 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:I might be interested. Don't really like the defensive player addition though...I tried it out a couple seasons ago and it was a major fail. I'd much rather have another flex spot.

What was bad about it? I've personally never played in a league with DP so it intrigued me....something a little fresh

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/matchup analysis aspect out of fantasy imo. They're like kickers but more unpredictable.

They key is knowing how it is scored. I set up leagues and usually score it like 1 pt per tackle, 1 pt per pass defensed, 2 pts forced fumble, 2 pts recovered fumble, 4 pts int, 3 pts sack, 2 pts safety, 6 pts td, or something like that.

Then I usually focus on drafting guys who get a lot of tackles and sacks....typically LBs....but in my leagues you have to draft a LB, DB, DL and then you get a defensive utility so during a draft you just look at their previous seasons stats in tackles, ints, sacks, etc. ESPN gives option to look at this through a draft.

It's not nearly as random as something like K or team defense unless I guy like returns 2 interceptions for tds or something...but that's something that should be rewarded anyway. JJ Watt was a huge difference maker one year.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #13 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:01 pm

I love it but would make a couple of changes. Get rid of the DP position for one. And also have two flexes and get rid of the RB/WR position. Some drafters like to load up at TE position when they are weak in other areas and they are penalized in that one flex position.

Post #14 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:05 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:What's new!?

This is now a 2QB league. I've also added a DP (Defensive player Utility) starter. Where you have the option to choose any 1 defensive player. (12 Starters, 7 Bench, 2 IR)

Roster
QB's- (2)
RB's- (2)
RB/WR
WR's- (2)
TE
Flex
DP (Defensive player)- (1)
D/ST
K

I thought you hated those 2 qb leagues with individual defensive players?? So instead you created your own and copy later?

Guilty.

Mamba Mentality · Post #15 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:08 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
What was bad about it? I've personally never played in a league with DP so it intrigued me....something a little fresh

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/matchup analysis aspect out of fantasy imo. They're like kickers but more unpredictable.

They key is knowing how it is scored. I set up leagues and usually score it like 1 pt per tackle, 1 pt per pass defensed, 2 pts forced fumble, 2 pts recovered fumble, 4 pts int, 3 pts sack, 2 pts safety, 6 pts td, or something like that.

Then I usually focus on drafting guys who get a lot of tackles and sacks....typically LBs....but in my leagues you have to draft a LB, DB, DL and then you get a defensive utility so during a draft you just look at their previous seasons stats in tackles, ints, sacks, etc. ESPN gives option to look at this through a draft.

It's not nearly as random as something like K or team defense unless I guy like returns 2 interceptions for tds or something...but that's something that should be rewarded anyway. JJ Watt was a huge difference maker one year.

You can stream team defenses week to week with fairly good success...as a matter of fact that's what I did last year in one of my leagues and I finished first overall. DP and K are wildcards, there aren't very many metrics to determine their week to week viability. I don't like the idea of luck determining my outcomes. If it was up to me I'd get rid of both those positions.

Post #16 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:08 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I love it but would make a couple of changes. Get rid of the DP position for one. And also have two flexes and get rid of the RB/WR position. Some drafters like to load up at TE position when they are weak in other areas and they are penalized in that one flex position.

Think I will stick with the DP tho. Unless it's overwhelmingly unpopular. :wink:

Post #17 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:17 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
What was bad about it? I've personally never played in a league with DP so it intrigued me....something a little fresh

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/due diligence aspect out of fantasy imo.

I would assume LB's / Edge rushers would be the most valued? I could obviously google but I'm opening dialogue lol

Right now I have it set so...

Tackles= 1 point

Sacks= 3 points

INT's= 5 pts

Fumble Forced (FF)= 2 pts

Fumble Recovered (FR)= 2 pts

Safety (SF)= 2 pts

Passes Defensed (PD)= 1 pt

Spoiler:

Post #18 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:19 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:What's new!?

This is now a 2QB league. I've also added a DP (Defensive player Utility) starter. Where you have the option to choose any 1 defensive player. (12 Starters, 7 Bench, 2 IR)

Roster
QB's- (2)
RB's- (2)
RB/WR
WR's- (2)
TE
Flex
DP (Defensive player)- (1)
D/ST
K

I thought you hated those 2 qb leagues with individual defensive players?? So instead you created your own and copy later?

Guilty.

Just a poacher...poach the league because you have a simpler one than gradually work your way up to poach more with a similar one. :lol:

I may have to join that one if there is room. i have always hated D/ST though....seems way too random to let 2-3 entire units be one position. You have a random game with an int return and a punt return it flips the game regardless of strategies at other positions.

Post #19 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:23 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I thought you hated those 2 qb leagues with individual defensive players?? So instead you created your own and copy later?

Guilty.

Just a poacher...poach the league because you have a simpler one than gradually work your way up to poach more with a similar one.

I may have to join that one if there is room. i have always hated D/ST though....seems way too random to let 2-3 entire units be one position. You have a random game with an int return and a punt return it flips the game regardless of strategies at other positions.

Okay, I'll send you an invite.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #20 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:44 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:New year, new & improved league!

League
Bmurph
Jwise
BlueJerseyJinx
Ayatollah
Turco
Ballerhogger
Azcatz
DieHardFan
Cactus

2019 Champion: DieHardFan

New and improved !! Let me guess, you kicked Jwise out. :wink: