MVP

Post #1 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 5:46 am

Who ya got?

Post #2 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 5:53 am

PFF

https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/qb

Mamba Mentality · Post #3 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 3:33 pm

Pains me to say it, but this is Russell Wilson's year. Mahomes wont be too far behind though.

Post #4 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:22 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:Pains me to say it, but this is Russell Wilson's year. Mahomes wont be too far behind though.

Rodgers is making a strong case himself.

Mamba Mentality · Post #5 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:31 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:Pains me to say it, but this is Russell Wilson's year. Mahomes wont be too far behind though.

Rodgers is making a strong case himself.

So far he's played 4 of the worst defenses in the NFL. I think his numbers will regress a bit later in the season. Plus I don't think he'll have to do as much with that running game and defense. Wilson on the other hand has no choice but to air it out because that defense sure as hell isn't getting any stops.

Papi_swav · Post #6 » by **Papi_swav** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 7:35 pm

Yea I got Russell Wilson taking it.

hermes · Post #7 » by **hermes** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 10:18 pm

good, i'm first on the josh allen bandwagon

there is still plenty of room!

skones · Post #8 » by **skones** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 11:07 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:Pains me to say it, but this is Russell Wilson's year. Mahomes wont be too far behind though.

Rodgers is making a strong case himself.

So far he's played 4 of the worst defenses in the NFL. I think his numbers will regress a bit later in the season. Plus I don't think he'll have to do as much with that running game and defense. Wilson on the other hand has no choice but to air it out because that defense sure as hell isn't getting any stops.

Wilson has played Miami, Dallas, and Atlanta, all three of which are in the bottom 5 of yards allowed with his own team Seattle, and Minnesota rounding out the bottom 5. New Orleans, by yards allowed, has been better than New England over the first four. It's fair if you want to say the defenses haven't been great for Rodgers, I've got no problem with it, but let's not act like Wilson hasn't also played against cupcake opponents.

I think it's ultimately a race that comes down to Wilson and Rodgers this year, and it'll hinge upon final records. As good as Allen has been, I don't think he has the counting numbers with TDs relative to INTs by year end.

Post #9 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 11:14 pm

skones wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Rodgers is making a strong case himself.

So far he's played 4 of the worst defenses in the NFL. I think his numbers will regress a bit later in the season. Plus I don't think he'll have to do as much with that running game and defense. Wilson on the other hand has no choice but to air it out because that defense sure as hell isn't getting any stops.

Wilson has played Miami, Dallas, and Atlanta, all three of which are in the bottom 5 of yards allowed with his own team Seattle, and Minnesota rounding out the bottom 5. New Orleans, by yards allowed, has been better than New England over the first four. It's fair if you want to say the defenses haven't been great for Rodgers, I've got no problem with it, but let's not act like Wilson hasn't also played against cupcake opponents.

Yeah, that's a totally fair argument. NE is really the only good test he's had so far & he threw 5 TD's against them. For me it's Rodgers (1.A) & Wilson (1.B) at the moment. But it's still early. Mahomes can absolutely go off & change things.

PFF has Rodgers graded (96) just slightly above Wilson (95). Allen (87) & Mahomes (82).

skones wrote:I think it's ultimately a race that comes down to Wilson and Rodgers this year, and it'll hinge upon final records. As good as Allen has been, I don't think he has the counting numbers with TDs relative to INTs by year end.

If that's the case, then Rodgers will have an edge based on each division. I don't think it will.

RaoulDuke79 · Post #10 » by **RaoulDuke79** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 11:25 pm

Now that Ass Chin is gone, Watson will start to tear the league up and overtake all those guys, especially when he has such a valuable target in Hopki....errrrrr.......nevermind.

Carry on.

El Turco · Post #11 » by **El Turco** » Wed Oct 7, 2020 6:25 pm

Give me rodgers or allen. Wilson can have a vote for once though :lol:

Post #12 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Oct 9, 2020 2:27 am

Cactus Jack wrote:It's never too early to vote. Who ya got?

It's not? You'd cast your final vote for MVP after a quarter of the season?

Post #13 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Oct 9, 2020 2:36 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:It's never too early to vote. Who ya got?

It's not? You'd cast your final vote for MVP after a quarter of the season?

You can change your vote at any time. :wink:

Post #14 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Oct 9, 2020 2:47 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:It's never too early to vote. Who ya got?

It's not? You'd cast your final vote for MVP after a quarter of the season?

You can change your vote at any time.

There may be other candidates though....needed some placeholder votes..if you change # of options it resets. You never know, the Chargers may finish 12-4 with Justin Herbert as the MVP.

hermes · Post #15 » by **hermes** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:52 pm

better poll at this point might be - is there any chance a non-qb wins the mvp this year?

bluejerseyjinx · Post #16 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:42 pm

Too early to say at this time, but most of the deserving names to this point are on the list.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #17 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:51 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:Pains me to say it, but this is Russell Wilson's year. Mahomes wont be too far behind though.

Rodgers is making a strong case himself.

Don't you get the feeling Aaron Rodgers is on a laser focused mission this year?

hermes · Post #18 » by **hermes** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:32 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:Pains me to say it, but this is Russell Wilson's year. Mahomes wont be too far behind though.

Rodgers is making a strong case himself.

Don't you get the feeling Aaron Rodgers is on a laser focused mission this year?

if drafting the qb was just a motivational ploy, it was a brilliant move because it seems to be working out

Post #19 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:11 pm

Rookie of the year races might be more interesting.

Post #20 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:14 pm

RaoulDuke79 wrote:Now that Ass Chin is gone, Watson will start to tear the league up and overtake all those guys, especially when he has such a valuable target in Hopki....errrrrr.......nevermind.

Carry on.

Are you an Astros fan? Just saw they are the 2nd team ever to force a game 7 after being behind 3-0...I suppose the other is the Red Sox against the Yankees.

Last I checked, the Braves were also up on the Dodgers 2-0 and now I see it's Dodgers 3-2.

Who's your MVP so far?