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Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:33 pm
by nybluemeadow
There is Cam, Luck, Stroud, Roethlisberger, RG3, but did Jayden Daniels just have the greatest rookie season for a QB of all time?

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:27 am
by GeorgeSears
Statistically speaking, yes.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:37 pm
by El Turco
No, Justin Herbert was better. Advanced stats prefer CJ Stroud.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:01 pm
by Worm Guts
I'm actually surprised more people haven't made the Robert Griffin comparison. Same team, similar statistics, similar team record.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:06 pm
by QB_Eagles
I think that recognition belongs to Greg Cook (the best QB that never was; suffered a career-ending shoulder injury), Otto Graham (best passer rating and won the championship) or Benny Friedman (best QB in his rookie season; 1st team All-Pro).

There are some elderly Bengals fans who still swear Greg Cook is the best Bengals QB ever and he played one season.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:15 pm
by El Turco
QB_Eagles wrote:I think that recognition belongs to Greg Cook (the best QB that never was; suffered a career-ending shoulder injury), Otto Graham (best passer rating and won the championship) or Benny Friedman (best QB in his rookie season; 1st team All-Pro).


Bjj hacked your account?

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:37 pm
by Mr B
Didn’t Dan Marino make it to the Super Bowl in his rookie year?

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:42 pm
by Worm Guts
Mr B wrote:Didn’t Dan Marino make it to the Super Bowl in his rookie year?


2nd year. Dan Marino's 2nd year was pretty crazy though compared where the rest of the league was passing . Maybe the biggest outlier season in NFL history.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:50 pm
by El Turco
Marino was peak pussy loser

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:28 pm
by QB_Eagles
El Turco wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:I think that recognition belongs to Greg Cook (the best QB that never was; suffered a career-ending shoulder injury), Otto Graham (best passer rating and won the championship) or Benny Friedman (best QB in his rookie season; 1st team All-Pro).

Bjj hacked your account?

bjj is too enamored with Burrow to have written my comment. ;)

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:26 pm
by azcatz11
El Turco wrote:Marino was peak pussy loser


What about ace Ventura?

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:54 pm
by bwgood77
azcatz11 wrote:
El Turco wrote:Marino was peak pussy loser


What about ace Ventura?


Ray Finkle and the Dolphins would have had a Super Bowl if Marino would have had the ball laces out.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 4:09 pm
by jg77
As far as the entertainment level I'd say it was close to RG3's rookie season.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:11 pm
by Wallace_Wallace
jg77 wrote:As far as the entertainment level I'd say it was close to RG3's rookie season.


Both RG3 and Luck's were amazing.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:47 pm
by Mr B
I thought Bo Nix had a better season than Daniels.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:52 pm
by atlantabbq99
Best stats for a rookie QB in NFL history and a playoff win....... Yes GOAT rookie

JD is already a top 3 QB now.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:02 pm
by Worm Guts
atlantabbq99 wrote:Best stats for a rookie QB in NFL history and a playoff win....... Yes GOAT rookie

JD is already a top 3 QB now.


Best stats for a rookie is somewhat of a debatable claim. He's right there with Herbert, Stroud and Griffin III I guess. Definitely not head and shoulders above though.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:34 pm
by Mr B
Worm Guts wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:Best stats for a rookie QB in NFL history and a playoff win....... Yes GOAT rookie

JD is already a top 3 QB now.


Best stats for a rookie is somewhat of a debatable claim. He's right there with Herbert, Stroud and Griffin III I guess. Definitely not head and shoulders above though.

He wasn’t even head and shoulders above Bo Nix this year.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:52 am
by atlantabbq99
Mr B wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:Best stats for a rookie QB in NFL history and a playoff win....... Yes GOAT rookie

JD is already a top 3 QB now.


Best stats for a rookie is somewhat of a debatable claim. He's right there with Herbert, Stroud and Griffin III I guess. Definitely not head and shoulders above though.

He wasn’t even head and shoulders above Bo Nix this year.


You are not factoring in Jayden's rushing yards and rushing TDs and his overall yards and TDs with his passing stats. It puts him head and shoulders above Nix, Stroud, Herbert, RG3, etc.

On top of that, taking the 2nd worst NFL team last year and carrying them into the playoffs and winning in the playoffs.

Re: Did Jayden Daniels have the Greatest QB Rookie Season?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:12 pm
by Worm Guts
atlantabbq99 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Best stats for a rookie is somewhat of a debatable claim. He's right there with Herbert, Stroud and Griffin III I guess. Definitely not head and shoulders above though.

He wasn’t even head and shoulders above Bo Nix this year.


You are not factoring in Jayden's rushing yards and rushing TDs and his overall yards and TDs with his passing stats. It puts him head and shoulders above Nix, Stroud, Herbert, RG3, etc.

On top of that, taking the 2nd worst NFL team last year and carrying them into the playoffs and winning in the playoffs.


RG3 had pretty much the same rushing statistics and team turnaround. Stroud and Herbert had more passing volume. Stroud also had a big team turnaround.