Peter King ranks the QB's

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Post#21 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:57 am

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Injuries??? Holt played most of the season injured and if was healthy could have been way more dominnt. Pace was injured half the season. A 7th round rookie who although performed well played out of position, we lost our centre in week one and we had like 7 different lineman from the first week to the last.

Funny about injuries..... Bulger threw less picks but less TDs. We could have just as easily had a 10-6 record like you. BUlger has done it longer also.


Injuries?? You mean like when Drew Brees had 500 yards with Terrence Copper and Devery Henderson as our 1 and 2 receivers?
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Post#22 » by High 5 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:28 am

I hate the Saints with all my heart, but I doubt there's a GM in the league that would consider taking Bulger over Brees. Bulger had arguably the best receiver in the league and arguably the best receiving back (pretty good at running too) in the league.

Replace any Saints receiver with Holt and any Saints back with Jackson and Brees' stats just got a lot better.
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Post#23 » by treiz » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:40 am

AIizdaking wrote:Drew Brees is better than Bulger
More Yards and better percentage
and he's younger


That's got nothing to do with anything
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Post#24 » by livestrong4ever » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:21 am

Mcnabb that low. ok go see how many teams want kitna on there team b4 mcnabb.. lolz
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Post#25 » by PistonFan4Life » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:50 pm

If you want to rate the QBs from top to bottom it should look a little something like this for the top 5:
1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Manning
4. McNabb
5. Palmer

Now I know a lot people can laugh it up all they want, but Brady and Brees probably have the least amount of stars on their team and still put up outstanding numbers. I know some of you will say well Brees had targets in San Diego, but he didn't have that luxury so much at the WR position in New Orleans and he still got the job done with a team that everyone thought was done for before the season ever started. As far as Brady goes I know a lot of people attribute his success to the defense, but he still puts up some decent numbers for a QB with hardly much better than a 3rd string WR as his primary target to throw to. I truely think McNabb is next in line ahead of Manning, but due to injuries I couldn't put him in that spot. Anyone who truely follows the game has to agree that Manning couldn't carry a team on his own, and you can all disagree all you want, but any QB that has 3 star WRs and a stud RB should be able to get his team to a championship.
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Post#26 » by UTMCretin » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:15 am

How can anyone possibly think Young is that much better than Vick? And how can King put two QB's with more interceptions than touchdowns in the Top 10? Jay Cutler at 10? Matt Schaub at 19? Romo ahead of McNabb? Kitna ahead of McNabb? Rivers ahead of McNabb? What the hell happened to McNabb? J.P. Losman over Manning, Green, and Vick? Why is Young that high anyway? What's with the incredible bias towards young QB's? If wins matter at all, then why is Kitna ranked so high? Same for Cutler, whose team crumbled when he became starter?

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Post#27 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:26 am

PistonFan4Life wrote:If you want to rate the QBs from top to bottom it should look a little something like this for the top 5:
1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Manning
4. McNabb
5. Palmer

Now I know a lot people can laugh it up all they want, but Brady and Brees probably have the least amount of stars on their team and still put up outstanding numbers. I know some of you will say well Brees had targets in San Diego, but he didn't have that luxury so much at the WR position in New Orleans and he still got the job done with a team that everyone thought was done for before the season ever started. As far as Brady goes I know a lot of people attribute his success to the defense, but he still puts up some decent numbers for a QB with hardly much better than a 3rd string WR as his primary target to throw to. I truely think McNabb is next in line ahead of Manning, but due to injuries I couldn't put him in that spot. Anyone who truely follows the game has to agree that Manning couldn't carry a team on his own, and you can all disagree all you want, but any QB that has 3 star WRs and a stud RB should be able to get his team to a championship.


No.

I'm the biggest Saint's fan you will find, but I wouldn't put Brees over Manning in any way.

Manning IS Brees, but with the prototypical size, and bigger arm.

Brady is still 2, Brees is 3.
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Post#28 » by memgrizzlies » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:49 am

7. V. Young* Tenn 8 0 6.16 .515 2,199 -1 552 7 24


O YEA THATS RIGHT...MY BOY VINCE YOUNG IS NUMBER 7!!!
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Post#29 » by livestrong4ever » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:08 pm

id put it like this

1 manning
2 brady
3 Palmer
4 Mcnabb
5 Brees
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Post#30 » by randomhero423 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 1:41 am

jon kitna is not a top 10 qb. :banghead:
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Post#31 » by randomhero423 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 1:46 am

my top 10 is:
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan Mcnabb (when healthy)
7. Matt Hasselback
8. Ben Roethlisberger (when healthy).
9. Vince Young
10. Phillip Rivers
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Post#32 » by Monkeyfeng06 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 1:57 am

1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Manning
4. McNabb
5. Palmer


wtf???

it should be:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Palmer
4. Brees
5. McNabb

psh.... mcnabb over palmer.. that's an outrage.
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Post#33 » by HMFFL » Sun Jul 8, 2007 4:04 am

King actually gets paid to come up with these things? Wow! I was going to watch a comedy tonight but for some reason I now feel like watching a drama.
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Post#34 » by treiz » Sun Jul 8, 2007 1:59 pm

randomhero423 wrote:my top 10 is:
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan Mcnabb (when healthy)
7. Matt Hasselback
8. Ben Roethlisberger (when healthy).
9. Vince Young
10. Phillip Rivers


He's not a top 10 QB

Here's how my list would go:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Philip Rivers
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. J.P. Losman
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Post#35 » by randomhero423 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 3:11 pm

this year's the real test for VY. but what he did vs the giants showed me he has the intengibles to really lead a team. even if his stats don't look great
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Post#36 » by High 5 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 5:37 pm

randomhero423 wrote:this year's the real test for VY. but what he did vs the giants showed me he has the intengibles to really lead a team. even if his stats don't look great


Stats are everything for a QB. If you don't pass at a 60%+ clip then you suck. If you don't pass for 3000 yards you suck.
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Post#37 » by randomhero423 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 6:42 pm

i disagree. VY vs the texans had a comp% of 47 but he still led the titans to victory. did he have a bad game? his qb rating was 87 and he didn't throw a INT. had two td's (1 passing 1 rushing).
for the season his completetion % is 51.5 yet he led his team to a surprising 8-8. they lost every game when he didn't start.

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Post#38 » by The_Child_Prodigy » Sun Jul 8, 2007 6:53 pm

randomhero423 wrote:i disagree. VY vs the texans had a comp% of 47 but he still led the titans to victory. did he have a bad game? his qb rating was 87 and he didn't throw a INT. had two td's (1 passing 1 rushing).
for the season his completetion % is 51.5 yet he led his team to a surprising 8-8. they lost every game when he didn't start.

does VY suck? no i don't think so at all.


he doesnt suck but would you rate him that high? A QB's job is to distribute the ball something VY doesnt do to well.
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Post#39 » by randomhero423 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 6:58 pm

but he wins games. and that's all that really does matter. he's def not top 5. but he should be in the 8-10 range.
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Post#40 » by High 5 » Sun Jul 8, 2007 7:19 pm

Nope, sorry. If you stats suck, you suck. There's no way around it unless you lead your team to a Super Bowl no matter how crappy your team actually is.

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