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Sources: Patriots suspected of stealing signals

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:25 pm
by vaff87
NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989

What would be the repercussions of this?

Edit: Oops, it says it in the article, possibly a future draft pick. :oops:

Re: Report: Patriots suspected of stealing signals

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:54 pm
by FakeScreenName123
vaff87 wrote:
NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989

What would be the repercussions of this?

Edit: Oops, it says it in the article, possibly a future draft pick. :oops:

So not only do the patriots have cheaters like Rodney Harrison, but they also cheat as a team.



:roll: x500


Also, wait for the league to actually decide what happens before rushing to judgement.


So THIS is why the jets lost huh.

Re: Report: Patriots suspected of stealing signals

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:59 pm
by vaff87
FakeScreenName123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




:roll: x500


Also, wait for the league to actually decide what happens before rushing to judgement.


So THIS is why the jets lost huh.


No, I shouldn't have said that, I'll edit it.


I do find it odd that a team everyone calls the "classiest team in the NFL" are involved in stories like this though.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:05 pm
by High 5
Patriots are involved in little scandals like this seemingly every year.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:13 pm
by Basketball Jesus
If I

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:17 pm
by High 5
Basketball Jesus wrote:If I

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:26 pm
by Jose7
not surprised of this but they were still going to beat my jets lol.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:28 pm
by Rich Rane
As a fan of the Jets (I'd call myself a Jets fan, but I don't want to be classified with the rest of the a-holes at Giants Stadium yesterday), I only ask...why?

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:37 pm
by Basketball Jesus
High 5 wrote: but I would never call them a classy organization.


Really, is any organization classy? If there was one, they're probably not very good. You need to be somewhat devious to gain an advantage over the competition. It's like that in real-life.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:39 pm
by High 5
Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Really, is any organization classy? If there was one, they're probably not very good. You need to be somewhat devious to gain an advantage over the competition. It's like that in real-life.


I know, that's why I said they were a great organization. I was just replying to the poster who called them the "classiest organization."

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:47 pm
by vaff87
Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Really, is any organization classy? If there was one, they're probably not very good. You need to be somewhat devious to gain an advantage over the competition. It's like that in real-life.


The Eagles :lol: Although I'm not necessarily joking, they have good players who don't get in trouble and are apparently quite fan friendly. And they have a coaching staff that is respected around the league, and who value character pretty much as much as possible.


I know, that's why I said they were a great organization. I was just replying to the poster who called them the "classiest organization."


I was mainly talking about the reputation I perceive. They're involved in things like this quite frequently like I believe you said, but they're still considered the "gold standard" and classy for a while. Here's an article talking about how the Patriots are no longer classy.

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10055176/1

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:52 pm
by Basketball Jesus
I'd take winning over classy any day.

Also: LMFAO at that article. Obtaining guys with dubious track records who have been undervalued for that exact reason has been Belichick's MO from day one. The "high character" thing is nothing more than a piece of media-created fiction. Was Bryan Cox a character individual? Corey Dillon? What a hack writer.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:55 pm
by High 5
Basketball Jesus wrote:I'd take winning over classy any day.



Word, but stealing signals is crossing the line.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:56 pm
by FakeScreenName123
bryan cox was awesome.


wait. did rodney ever play with bryan cox? or was that in the 01 campaign.

cos oh boy. those 2 on the same d. hahhah.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:57 pm
by Basketball Jesus
High 5 wrote:Word, but stealing signals is crossing the line.


You have no disagreement from me there.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:58 pm
by Wizards2Lottery
If they did do this.. why? You know your most likely gonna steam roll them, why try to cheat :crazy:

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:58 pm
by Jose7
Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.


The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

"We don't have any comment," an NFL spokesman said Monday.

The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets.

"It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

"From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989

im rooting for the patriots to be guilty and lose a ton draft picks.

how dare they go against the integrity of the game. :wavefinger: :lol:

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:12 pm
by vaff87
Basketball Jesus wrote:I'd take winning over classy any day.

Also: LMFAO at that article. Obtaining guys with dubious track records who have been undervalued for that exact reason has been Belichick's MO from day one. The "high character" thing is nothing more than a piece of media-created fiction. Was Bryan Cox a character individual? Corey Dillon? What a hack writer.


I'd prefer not to cheer for scumbags or cheaters, but you make a good point.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:31 pm
by Basketball Jesus
Not that I condone stealing signals, or what the Pats are alleged to have done, but this is nothing exclusive to the Patriots; over the years teams have been using all sorts or chicanery to steal other teams' signals and plays. I remember an allegation from the 1980s of one team planting a fan with binoculars to spy on the opposing team's playchart.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:02 pm
by vaff87
Basketball Jesus wrote:Not that I condone stealing signals, or what the Pats are alleged to have done, but this is nothing exclusive to the Patriots; over the years teams have been using all sorts or chicanery to steal other teams' signals and plays. I remember an allegation from the 1980s of one team planting a fan with binoculars to spy on the opposing team's playchart.


Yeah, but I never witnessed any of those teams beat the Eagles in the superbowl : :lol: