Parcells: "Bush is a special teams player"

[magicfan4life05]

I just heard Bill Parcells say that on espn radio just now with chris mortenson and keyshawn johnson. Now maybe reggie bush hasnt proven hes a full time RB in this league yet (even though he had a great game against seattle) but isnt that too harsh or do you agree with his thoughts?

[lpsevier]

Parcells is a special teams coach....YAHTZEE

[JoeyH]

He's still angry about last years beatdown.

[J.Kim]

Parcells is a special teams coach....YAHTZEE

[Da Schwab]

He's just becoming increasingly senile by the day.... just read my sig.

[jumanji]

I dont think he is a conventional back but somehow he needs to touch the ball about 15-20 times a game, as for Parcells have another donut Bill.

[GYBE]

I'm sure NO-KG-AI will lynch me, but I *kinda* agree. Not to the degree Parcells thinks, but what's the big difference between Bush and Rocket Ismail? I don't think Bush will ever be the feature player in a great offense.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

I'm sure NO-KG-AI will lynch me, but I *kinda* agree. Not to the degree Parcells thinks, but what's the big difference between Bush and Rocket Ismail? I don't think Bush will ever be the feature player in a great offense.

Ahh Rocket, i had completely forgotten about him. Well he was the cowboys leading receiver in 99.
Add the Panthers in 98.

Ill go back to forgetting about him now (hopefully).

[NO-KG-AI]

He's still angry about last years beatdown.

Yup.

I dunno how a guy who can carry 20 times, and catch 10 balls... from the receiver spot no less, is a special teams player.

People don't realize how Reggie effects a defense. It's not like guys who catch passes exclusively out of the backfield. When a defense sends in the personnel to match a running formation, and then Reggie is shifted into the slot, that makes a major mismatch.

I've never seen people try to write off a young player so fast in all my life.

I bet everyone who says he can't carry 20 times per game are the same people who said that about Westbrook... who isn't as talented as Bush.

[LAKESHOW]

i understand the analysis thing, but his team got totally obliterated by bush and the saints when they played. for some unknown reason, he escaped their gameplan, and reggie smoked 'em.

thats the reason bill. he must be an accounted part of the gameplan, when you leave him unaccounted for, you get a beatdown at home.

[NO-KG-AI]

i understand the analysis thing, but his team got totally obliterated by bush and the saints when they played. for some unknown reason, he escaped their gameplan, and reggie smoked 'em.

thats the reason bill. he must be an accounted part of the gameplan, when you leave him unaccounted for, you get a beatdown at home.

True.

Every team that said "Oh he hasn't done nothing, we should focus elsewhere" has been completely torched.

If you don't center a gameplan around stopping him, he goes off (SF, Dallas, NYG)

[GYBE]

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Ahh Rocket, i had completely forgotten about him. Well he was the cowboys leading receiver in 99.
Add the Panthers in 98.

Ill go back to forgetting about him now (hopefully).

Hey now, no need to forget about the Rocket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-QBR2IzlQ

He was Bush 15 years ago. Doesn't have the ability to make cuts quite like Bush does, but makes up for it by being even faster. At ND he was timed at 4.16 in the 40 with full pads on. He was also really clutch as the video shows from 6:40 on. Kickoff return to beat Miami at the end of the game, two kickoff returns against Michigan in the same game to beat them and a punt return that would've won the National Championship if not brought back for a bull clipping call nowhere near the play. He was robbed of the Heisman in 1990 (finished 2nd).

He was a much, much better college player than a pro obviously. He passed up being a first round pick in the NFL to sign a monster contract in the CFL and try to build up the league. When he went back to the States he wasn't quite the same player.

[High 5]

Reggie just ain't got no love for the game.

[SSUBluesman]

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Yup.

I dunno how a guy who can carry 20 times, and catch 10 balls... from the receiver spot no less, is a special teams player.

People don't realize how Reggie effects a defense. It's not like guys who catch passes exclusively out of the backfield. When a defense sends in the personnel to match a running formation, and then Reggie is shifted into the slot, that makes a major mismatch.

I've never seen people try to write off a young player so fast in all my life.

I bet everyone who says he can't carry 20 times per game are the same people who said that about Westbrook... who isn't as talented as Bush.

Right. This is nothing more than a bunch of nonsense filled with distortions. Wow, he affects the defense so much that he often does nothing to it except catch short passes and make short runs ("But just think if he broke that one tackle"!). I'm sorry, but I watched Moss from his rookie year on in MN as he was continually focused on by defenses and STILL would find ways to make big plays and even destroy them. Moss could have been argued as the top WR in the league (at the very least, one of the top), one of the most PRODUCTIVE WR's in the league, and one of the most PRODUCTIVE threats in the league. No one, even yourself, can even ATTEMPT to put Bush anywhere close to this.

No one's writing him off, this is merely a reflex action on the part of Bush supporters (like yourself) to try and deflect away from his disappointing lack of actual production thus far. It's not that he's incapable of becoming the playmaker and threat people like yourself bill him as, but rather that he's not there RIGHT NOW. He's not the football god that everyone hyped him up to be.

Another distortion would be the comparison to Westbrook, whose questions were brought about more so by size and durability questions and not the (valid) questions about Bush having the actual ability to run inside.

As far as Parcells' comment goes, ESPN believes that it's not their job to provide news and information about sports information (unless it's the home team, the Yankees), but rather to incessantly hype up individual players and foster/exploit controversy at all possible times. This particular instance falls under both.

[WEFFPIM]

When I first saw this title, I thought it said "Bush is a special team player" and thought to myself, what's the problem?

[Jasen777]

He's a 3rd down back. But that's really ok with many teams going to a 2-back system.

[FNQ]

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And Moss entered the conversation when?

Comparing apples to oranges... Moss was a physical freak, the height/speed/vertical that is ideal for a WR. Not to mention the fact that Moss was competing with guys about 3-5" shorter than him and taking a fraction of the hits Bush does. Its completely senseless to even mention them together as the situations are completely different.

For people trying to fit Bush into a conventional RB mold, yes you will be disappointed. For proof on how he impacts a game, look at Deuce's #s last year... after two straight years with subpar lines (and last year's was just as bad as the previous two) Deuce was seeing more open holes in a 2 back set with Bush, as Bush would go out into the flat and draw backers away from the middle...

I cant wait for people to point to Bush's total #s, couldnt possibly be the effect of having zero passing game for 4 weeks and a Swiss cheese defense...

The fantasy football generation strikes again

[NO-KG-AI]

^^ He also forgot to account for the talent on the Vikings offense.

[Yi Jian Lian]

Bush will come along.

[High 5]

Bush is a less consistent Warrick Dunn. (young Dunn, not current)