Charles Tillman - Where does he rank?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:28 pm
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Charles Tillman - Where does he rank?
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:38 pm
Not Top 5. Nor even Top 10.
(Remember that I'm heavily biased when I say this)
(Remember that I'm heavily biased when I say this)
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:41 pm
I would put him below Champ, Harris, clements, McCallister, springs, and Ike Taylor and he tied with Dre Bly
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:43 pm
Dre Bly sucks.
J Kim - DeAngelo Hall would not be in your top 10 would he?
Ike Taylor wasn't he almost benched last year?
J Kim - DeAngelo Hall would not be in your top 10 would he?
Ike Taylor wasn't he almost benched last year?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:45 pm
treyZz wrote:Dre Bly sucks.
J Kim - DeAngelo Hall would not be in your top 10 would he?
Ike Taylor wasn't he almost benched last year?
Why do you hate Dre Bly...is it because he used to terrorize the Bears QB's
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:49 pm
Antoine Winfield is better as well and Kelly Herndon
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:00 pm
treyZz wrote:Dre Bly sucks.
J Kim - DeAngelo Hall would not be in your top 10 would he?
Ike Taylor wasn't he almost benched last year?
DeAngelo "Dr Jekyll" Hall? Or DeAngelo "Mr. Hyde" Hall?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:03 pm
brewcityboii wrote:Antoine Winfield is better as well and Kelly Herndon
So if Kelly Herndon is better than Charles Tillman, and you have Charles Tillman in your top-10 (by the amount of names you list), does that mean Nick Harper, Cortland Finnegan, Michael Griffin and Reynaldo Hill are automatically in your top-10 as well?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:09 pm
J.Kim wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
So if Kelly Herndon is better than Charles Tillman, and you have Charles Tillman in your top-10 (by the amount of names you list), does that mean Nick Harper, Cortland Finnegan, Michael Griffin and Reynaldo Hill are automatically in your top-10 as well?
Good point but after further review and going through all the rosters Tillman is not even in my top 15...ive got him between 17-20.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:58 am
J.Kim wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
DeAngelo "Dr Jekyll" Hall? Or DeAngelo "Mr. Hyde" Hall?
Both are better than Tillman.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:01 am
High 5 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Both are better than Tillman.
Definitely.
But the question of whether he's top-10 was posed...
Good DeAngelo is top-5 IMO, Bad DeAngelo is not.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:40 am
Guys better than Tillman, in no real order:
Champ Bailey
Rashean Mathis
Chris McAllister
Ronde Barber
Antoine Winfield
Nate Clements
Al Harris
Nathan Vasher
Leigh Bodden, when healthy
Asante Samuel
Terrence Newman, when healthy
Deangelo Hall, when his head escapes his rectum
Nnamde Asomugha
Dre Bly, on body of work
Shawn Springs, maybe not anymore
Brian Kelly, maybe not anymore
Kelly Herndon
Dunta Robinson, better CB but inferior playmaker
I think a lot of Bears and their fans like to conveniently ignore the fact Peanut was one of the very worst CBs in the league just 2 seasons ago. Part of that was he often moved inside on the slot in 3WR sets and got repeatedly torched, but since Ricky Manning Jr. (the best slot nickel guy in the business) took that role it really helped Tillman's confidence and overall ability.
Champ Bailey
Rashean Mathis
Chris McAllister
Ronde Barber
Antoine Winfield
Nate Clements
Al Harris
Nathan Vasher
Leigh Bodden, when healthy
Asante Samuel
Terrence Newman, when healthy
Deangelo Hall, when his head escapes his rectum
Nnamde Asomugha
Dre Bly, on body of work
Shawn Springs, maybe not anymore
Brian Kelly, maybe not anymore
Kelly Herndon
Dunta Robinson, better CB but inferior playmaker
I think a lot of Bears and their fans like to conveniently ignore the fact Peanut was one of the very worst CBs in the league just 2 seasons ago. Part of that was he often moved inside on the slot in 3WR sets and got repeatedly torched, but since Ricky Manning Jr. (the best slot nickel guy in the business) took that role it really helped Tillman's confidence and overall ability.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:45 am
Kelly Herndon?
Really?
Really?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:48 am
I have to agree with Roy Williams, and I'm a Bears fan. I've found Tillman overrated and overused for awhile now.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:15 am
I thought this guy was overrated as well, keyword, thought. This guy has been really, really good for us this season.
Anyways, where do people think Nathan Vasher ranks? I feel he's the better corner between the two.
Anyways, where do people think Nathan Vasher ranks? I feel he's the better corner between the two.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:16 am
Icness wrote:Shawn Springs, maybe not anymore.
Based on his play this year, Shawn Springs is still one of the better shutdown corners in the league. Hes just a pinky touch away from an injury
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:13 am
nathan vasher works wonders for me in madden
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:34 am
No love for Charles Woodson in this thread.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:12 am
He isn't top 5 in the NFC.. Newman, Harris, Woodson, Barber, Clements are all pretty easily better than him
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:27 pm
I love my packers for having two better CBs than him. I remember when Al Harris was crap and Ahman Green was a beast. How times change.