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Could the Pats go 19-0 and get the first pick in the draft?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm
by RIPskaterdude
It's possible.

If the Niners lose the rest of their games, and Miami wins 2-3 games, the Niners would be awarded the #1 pick in the NFL draft....

That would immediately be sent to the Pats.

Since the Niners traded their 1st round pick for Joe Stanley (28th pick in last year's draft).

If that happens...

Should everyone in the 49ers' organization be fired? Or was it just bad luck because of injuries and one of the worst offenses in the history of the NFL?

Who would the Pats pick?

Re: Could the Pats go 19-0 and get the first pick in the dra

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:32 pm
by MadCityBucky
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:It's possible.

If the Niners lose the rest of their games, and Miami wins 2-3 games, the Niners would be awarded the #1 pick in the NFL draft....

That would immediately be sent to the Pats.

Since the Niners traded their 1st round pick for Joe Stanley (28th pick in last year's draft).

If that happens...

Should everyone in the 49ers' organization be fired? Or was it just bad luck because of injuries and one of the worst offenses in the history of the NFL?

Who would the Pats pick?


But yes if they happened to have the first pick that they trade down and maybe pick up Kenny Philips or draft a LB?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:34 pm
by studcrackers
the pats would trade down and pick up a #1 next year, and this process will continue as long as bellichick and pioli is there they'll keep trying to stock up on future picks and/or 2nd and 3rd rounders for when they really want to move up and take a guy

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:35 pm
by JoeyH
and then they draft Glenn Dorsey

Re: Could the Pats go 19-0 and get the first pick in the dra

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:37 pm
by CBS7
MadCityBucky wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Miami Dolphins :wavefinger:


"If Miami wins 2-3 games.." :wavefinger:

Re: Could the Pats go 19-0 and get the first pick in the dra

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:41 pm
by MadCityBucky
_CBS7_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



"If Miami wins 2-3 games.." :wavefinger:

Yeah sorry about that. I don't know what I was thinking :banghead:

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:13 pm
by RIPskaterdude
Even the Pats get the #2 or #3 pick...

What a terrible trade for the Niners.

The 28th pick for the 1st/2nd/3rd pick :banghead:

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:08 am
by CJ_18
Dennis Dixon FTW!!!

I dont think theyd draft Dorsey, they already have Wilfork there.

They need a young LB as there current LBs are all grandpas.

James Laurinatis.

Come to think about...the pats could possibly look at a QB late 1st - 2nd round.

They need a guy that can keep their team above water when Brady goes down.

They need a guy to step in when he goes to see his first kid born. (can ya blame him...his wife is a sight to see)

And what better guy to learn from and stay under his wing than Tom Brady.

Any QB should want to get drafted there.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:21 am
by travis minor
laurinitis or young, depending on how they feel about there RB situation and mcfadden

or trade down, sitll maybe get mike jenkins or another secondary player and get another first next year and more picks

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:19 am
by CBS7
I don't think there's anything wrong with their RB situation. They've got 3 separate guys with at least 40 carries that are averaging 4.5+ yards/carry.

Its just that Brady isn't allowing them to flourish.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:23 am
by deeney0
Laurinitis? Has NE ever drafted a LB on day 1? They seem to do pretty well picking their LBs out of FA. Glenn Dorsey would be the pick, methinks.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:00 pm
by Basketball Jesus
deeney0 wrote:Laurinitis? Has NE ever drafted a LB on day 1?


I think the immortal Andy Katzenmoyer was the last one

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:43 pm
by Worm Guts
Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I think the immortal Andy Katzenmoyer was the last one

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:16 pm
by Basketball Jesus
I really hope they go OT this draft. Both Light and Kaczur have been disappointing to varying degrees this season. I like both Long and Cherilus equally but I agree with Icness: I think Cherilus is a better fit at LT. Plus one could feasibly trade down and pick up some later/future picks and Cherilus will still be on the board in the 10-15 range.

Although the prospect of McFadden in a Patriots uniform is quite tantalizing.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:24 pm
by The Rondo Show
deeney0 wrote:Laurinitis? Has NE ever drafted a LB on day 1? They seem to do pretty well picking their LBs out of FA. Glenn Dorsey would be the pick, methinks.
I know Belichick loves to pick guys in the trenches, but I can't see them spending that much money on a defensive tackle when they play (mostly) a 3-4 and already have 4 starting caliber defensive linemen in Seymour, Wilfork, Warren and Green. All of them are very young and Wilfork is the only one not locked up long-term but I'll guarantee they will get a deal done with him before free agency, too. As talented as Dorsey is, it becomes a waste at some point to lock up so much money and assets into a position were you are already loaded and when you won't even be able to start an All-Pro caliber talent.

I'd say Jake Long is a possibility if they don't trade out of the top 5 (currently #2 based on strength of schedule, I believe), but that kid from OSU Ghoulston (sp?) dominated him. I don't watch a ton of college football, but he didn't seem like a guaranteed, franchise stud tackle...but then again, it's a 1 game sample size.

I say **** the trenches; they are boring. The Patriots already dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball anyways and will be great regardless of who they take-- so go with the entertainment. Take Darren McFadden and make this offense even more explosive and fun to watch.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:34 pm
by Next Coming
And with the 1st pick in the 2008 NFL Entry Draft the New England Patriots select Owen Schmitt Fullback The University of West Virginia.

If that went down, I'm not sure if Mel Kiper would lambast the Patriots.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:43 pm
by Basketball Jesus
The only thing that concerns me with keeping the pick is that the Patriots will be dangerously near the cap limit next season and, given the relative age of their LBs and potential loss of Samuel, the Patriots will probably find better value trading down.

I also disagree with kSkD: successful franchises build their trenches up from drafting linemen on both sides of the ball, not from dipping in the FA market where they tend to be overpriced and past-their-prime. Boring as it may be, it

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:37 pm
by Manhattan Project
Basketball Jesus wrote:
I also disagree with kSkD: successful franchises build their trenches up from drafting linemen on both sides of the ball, not from dipping in the FA market where they tend to be overpriced and past-their-prime. Boring as it may be, it

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:39 pm
by Basketball Jesus
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:52 pm
by Manhattan Project
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