Should Giants give up on Eli Manning?

Monkeyfeng06 · Post #1 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:03 pm

this dude was the first overall pick of the draft and he hasn't shown anything that justify the pick. his consistency is very rex grossman like. sure, he has some amazing games but he will choke the next. his throwing technique is also in constant question. he likes to throw it off his back foot and that's a big no no for any professional quarterback. i think it's time that giants give eli manning another year to prove his worth. i wouldn't be surprised if the giants pick a QB in the first day of the draft just to prove a point to eli.

bigrich88 · Post #2 » by **bigrich88** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:44 pm

I believe that the Giants should give him one last chance, if he does not show that he can be a championship QB after next season than they need to get rid of him and plug in somebody else. He has started 50 games for the Giants yet in this past weekend's game, which i watched, he still made horrendous throws that a first year starter would make. And than after every game he does horrible he can't take the blame himself, blames other people and even laughs it off(at least he got something in common with his brother when it comes to football)

Here are his stats after 50 starts:
907 completions 1,647 attempts 10,425 yards 55.1 completion percentage 70 touchdowns 59 interceptions sacked 84 times 73.6 QB rating

He wasn't worthy of the 1st overall pick, and if he does not show significant improvement next season he should without a doubt be out of New York.

Post #3 » by **Da Schwab** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:46 pm

Monkeyfeng06 wrote:this dude was the first overall pick of the draft and he hasn't shown anything that justify the pick. his consistency is very rex grossman like. sure, he has some amazing games but he will choke the next. his throwing technique is also in constant question. he likes to throw it off his back foot and that's a big no no for any professional quarterback. i think it's time that giants give eli manning another year to prove his worth. i wouldn't be surprised if the giants pick a QB in the first day of the draft just to prove a point to eli.

That will not happen.

If he doesn't come through for the team in the last 5 games this year (I'm talking at least 3-2), then I'll give him next season to show what he's worth. If by next year he doesn't shake his bad habits and he has another dismal 2nd half, then I'll start crying for a change at the helm.

brewcityboii · Post #4 » by **brewcityboii** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:47 pm

I say the Giants trade him for AJ Feeley :nod:

Post #5 » by **Da Schwab** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:48 pm

bigrich88 wrote:I believe that the Giants should give him one last chance, if he does not show that he can be a championship QB after next season than they need to get rid of him and plug in somebody else. He has started 50 games for the Giants yet in this past weekend's game, which i watched, he still made horrendous throws that a first year starter would make. And than after every game he does horrible he can't take the blame himself, blames other people and even laughs it off(at least he got something in common with his brother when it comes to football)

Here are his stats after 50 starts:
907 completions 1,647 attempts 10,425 yards 55.1 completion percentage 70 touchdowns 59 interceptions sacked 84 times 73.6 QB rating

He wasn't worthy of the 1st overall pick, and if he does not show significant improvement next season he should without a doubt be out of New York.

That is his most important statistic.

Post #6 » by **Icness** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:52 pm

I've held the opinion that they needed to bring in a viable competitor for his job for at least the last two years, to push him but also to fill in when he has one of those days like he did yesterday. They've had one of the worst backup QB situations in the league his entire career and he knows he can suck and still keep his job. He sure plays that way. Look at what he does every year--starts out looking like he's finally turning the corner and living up to at least some of the hype, then November hits and he's the next coming of Scott Mitchell.

He's probably earned one more year, just because I have seen him look like a very good NFL QB for decent stretches, and the fact he's played most of this season with 1.5 WRs and a horribly streaky TE. But I believe very strongly he either needs some legit competition for his job or a change of scenery.

Post #7 » by **Manhattan Project** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:11 pm

Icness wrote:I've held the opinion that they needed to bring in a viable competitor for his job for at least the last two years, to push him but also to fill in when he has one of those days like he did yesterday. They've had one of the worst backup QB situations in the league his entire career and he knows he can suck and still keep his job. He sure plays that way. Look at what he does every year--starts out looking like he's finally turning the corner and living up to at least some of the hype, then November hits and he's the next coming of Scott Mitchell.

He's probably earned one more year, just because I have seen him look like a very good NFL QB for decent stretches, and the fact he's played most of this season with 1.5 WRs and a horribly streaky TE. But I believe very strongly he either needs some legit competition for his job or a change of scenery.

The Giants use Shockey way to much in their blocking schemes, thats why he seems streaky. He is still the same player he has always been. The main thing that Eli really needs to quit throwing off his back foot fading away. Every time he does that it equals bad news. He has been extremely streaky yeah, but at this point they dont have a better option at QB. He is not going anywhere...

RIPskaterdude · Post #8 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:15 pm

Trade him for Alex Smith :wink:

Post #9 » by **Next Coming** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:09 am

Just looking back at some of the QB's drafted over the past 5 years and not a lot have panned out or have reached some of the expectations bestowed upon them.

Yes I just used bestowed in one of my posts.

Seriously though look at some of these names.

Carson Palmer
Byron Leftwich
Rex Grossman
Kyle Boller
Chris Simms
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
J.P. Losman
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell
Matt Leinart
Vince Young
Jay Cutler

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #10 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:00 am

Ive said it before and im sure ill say it again, Elisha Manning is a bitch. On a sidenote, how many concussions did Archie suffer while playing?

randomhero423 · Post #11 » by **randomhero423** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:36 am

Next Coming wrote:Just looking back at some of the QB's drafted over the past 5 years and not a lot have panned out or have reached some of the expectations bestowed upon them.

Yes I just used bestowed in one of my posts.

Seriously though look at some of these names.

Carson Palmer
Byron Leftwich
Rex Grossman
Kyle Boller
Chris Simms
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
J.P. Losman
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell
Matt Leinart
Vince Young
Jay Cutler

palmer, and big ben have been good to very good. don't think they deserve to be on that list. and rodgers has barly played so how can you say that? cutler has looked very good as well. i expect a breakout yr nxt yr.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #12 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:41 am

randomhero423 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

palmer, and big ben have been good to very good. don't think they deserve to be on that list. and rodgers has barly played so how can you say that? cutler has looked very good as well. i expect a breakout yr nxt yr.

He wasnt listing just busts, he was just listing guys from that span.

DaGoodz · Post #13 » by **DaGoodz** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:25 pm

I don't know whats wrong with Eli, he goes threw mental lapses. One game he will look great, the next he will look like crap. Its just strange, but if the Giants end up 10-6, you can't replace a QB you been to the playoff 3 straight years with and has a overall winning record for his career

Post #14 » by **Icness** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:53 pm

DaGoodz wrote:I don't know whats wrong with Eli, he goes threw mental lapses. One game he will look great, the next he will look like crap. Its just strange, but if the Giants end up 10-6, you can't replace a QB you been to the playoff 3 straight years with and has a overall winning record for his career

And that's the dilemna--he's good enough to get you to the playoffs every year, but can he help the team make the next step? That's a tough decision :dontknow:

DaGoodz · Post #15 » by **DaGoodz** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:01 pm

The dilemma is, unlike a lot of 1st round QB's who failed. He's been offesenive player of the week, at least 3 times. He's had 4 TD 400 yard games, and hes also had 4 Ints 134 yrd games. Its a very weird situation. But this can all change next week. The only way I can see the Giants let him go is if they don't make the playoffs.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #16 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:45 pm

Icness wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And that's the dilemna--he's good enough to get you to the playoffs every year, but can he help the team make the next step? That's a tough decision

The thing is, hes not the one getting them to the playoffs. Ive always thought the Giants have been overrated recently, however they were/(are?) good. (not as godly as claimed, but good). With that defense, Tiki* (and having Jacobs as a backup where he was maybe a bit more threatening), and Plexiglass Burress, it would have been hard for them to miss the playoffs.
Though as a rookie with that team he went 1-6 (with Warner starting they were 7-2), so at least hes improved from that.

*Even though he was being a complete Diva and nearly tore them apart. Seriously, ive rarely seen this touched on but he was very damaging. The thing is he built up such a good reputation he was able to do it without the scrutiny or backlash a lot of guys would get.

DaGoodz · Post #17 » by **DaGoodz** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:50 am

The author of this thread looks like a real idiot right now

Monkeyfeng06 · Post #18 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:52 am

it's okay, eli won't win the NFC championship.

VinnyTheMick · Post #19 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:27 am

Monkeyfeng06 wrote:it's okay, eli won't win the NFC championship.

None of you mortadells even thought Eli would GET to a title game.

He won his 1st playoff game before his brother & made it to his 1st title game before his brother. In no way am I saying he is BETTER than his brother but he is better than many QBs in this league.

VinnyTheMick · Post #20 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:29 am

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The thing is, hes not the one getting them to the playoffs. Ive always thought the Giants have been overrated recently, however they were/(are?) good. (not as godly as claimed, but good). With that defense, Tiki* (and having Jacobs as a backup where he was maybe a bit more threatening), and Plexiglass Burress, it would have been hard for them to miss the playoffs.
Though as a rookie with that team he went 1-6 (with Warner starting they were 7-2), so at least hes improved from that.

*Even though he was being a complete Diva and nearly tore them apart. Seriously, ive rarely seen this touched on but he was very damaging. The thing is he built up such a good reputation he was able to do it without the scrutiny or backlash a lot of guys would get.

Eli in the clutch > Romo in the clutch

Giants > Cowboys

Deal with it.