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Neither player will say it publicly, but two of Detroits best offensive players -- receiver Roy Williams and running back Kevin Jones -- are counting the days until they can leave Detroit. While the losing seasons have taken their toll on the two players, there are other reasons why they want to leave the Lions organization and their motives arent exactly the same. Williams and Jones, who were both first-round draft picks in 2004, will become unrestricted free agents after next season and sources close to the players say theyve had enough and want out. At one time, Williams embraced the teaching of coordinator Mike Martz and even endured his sometimes abrasive coaching style, but that situation has changed. Williams has offered thinly veiled criticisms recently of Detroits offensive game plan and his role in it.Still, the overriding factor for Williams is that he simply wants to go home or get closer to it. The one thing you learn about Williams very quickly is that he loves Texas and would love to return to his home state.

Roy Williams to Tennessee!

(I wish...)

hopes he comes to the texans.....him and andre=best 1-2 combo

IF Snyder wants him, he will get him.

Roy Williams and Andre Johnson on the Texans? It would be nice for them. I doubt it happens, though. I hope the Packers at least make a pitch for Kevin Jones. But if Ryan Grant keeps running like he has who needs him?

A.J. wrote:hopes he comes to the texans.....him and andre=best 1-2 combo

I think Moss/Welker, TO/Crayton, and Driver/Jennings might have something to say about that. ecspecially Moss/Welker


But it would be one hell of a combo that is for sure.

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Moss/Welker, TO/Crayton, and Driver/Jennings

Johnson/Houzmanzada, Fitzgerald/Boldin, Harrison/Wayne...

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I think Moss/Welker, TO/Crayton, and Driver/Jennings might have something to say about that. ecspecially Moss/Welker


But it would be one hell of a combo that is for sure.

I'd rather have a healthy Williams and Johnson than any of those combos. Healthy being the key word there, of course.

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I'd rather have a healthy Williams and Johnson than any of those combos. Healthy being the key word there, of course.

any???? Randy Moss, the BEST wr in the game and the #3receptions leader as of week 14 id say might be up there imo

Williams and Johnson would be a great duo if we are talking about the future, very much like Fitzgerald and Boldin. All 4 players have had injury issues, so we knows?

What about all that talk about Roy embracing Kitna's preaching, etc?

He's coming to Miami, losers!

Okay, here's the real deal behind this...

The guy who wrote it is Tom Kowalski, a Lions beat writer for the GR Press and a guy I talk with on a fairly regular basis. What he is saying isn't really anything new or groundbreaking--the Lions knew when they drafted Roy he wanted to play in either Dallas, Houston, or Kansas City. They also knew that if they weren't winning consistently, he was almost certain to bolt the first chance he gets. Again, nothing surprising or unusual there, nothing specific to Detroit anyways.

The real interesting part (IMO anyways) is what Kowalski said without coming out and saying it. If you read between the lines, and I know Kowalski absolutely believes this, what he is saying is that both Roy Williams and Kevin Jones are fully prepared to tank next season in order to not get stuck with the franchise tag or sign a long-term deal in Detroit. They'd rather hurt their open market value and play for less elsewhere than suffer under Millen & Co. That's not something most players would ever come out and even hint about, but Kowalski feels secure enough in reading those two that he's not afraid to make it public.

Regarding Roy on the field:
He's often one of the best wideouts in the game, and he's got enough across-the-board skill and physical ability to play any WR spot in pretty much any system. But he is a guy who doesn't consistently bring his "A" game, and when he doesn't it's quite often very infectious. If you don't get him the ball early, he's very likely to take himself out of the game. He'll drop more balls than you like, but he normally is the textbook picture of catching with his hands. He also tends to play much better against better CBs, sort of like how Vince Carter always tries harder (when he isn't sitting out because his pinkie hurts a little) when he's matched up against Lebron or Wade, but dogs it when he's facing white guys or non-scorers.

Everyone applauded the fact the Lions traded up for Kevin Jones, myself included and I really thought that draft was going to turn that franchise around. One thing is odd to me though, you would figure that them two would be happy playing under Martz no?

When I first started reading i was thinking how nice it would be to have him on the Cowboys, then i noticed the part about Texas which made it more than just a random hope your team gets the guy. Especially if hes not changing teams until after next season. Because unfortunately im not sure he and TO could play together. They seem pretty similar from what Icness said (as far as general attitude)

well TO is old we could use a replacement soon and roy is a #1 type WR

Re Iceness' post:

That's pretty shocking to know that players would actually limit their earning potential, given how short these guys careers are.

I would think it would be pretty hard to not give it your all, especially as a running back, because you're more likely to get injured. As a receiver, I'm sure its easier, because you just don't run your patterns out. But as a running back, if you have a ball and are running half assed, you're likely to get popped and suffer a serious injury.

I hope for the sake of the NFL these guys don't dog it. That's horrible to think that I love a sport so much where guys don't even try for 16 games a season.

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Johnson/Houzmanzada, Fitzgerald/Boldin, Harrison/Wayne...

Northcutt/Williams

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Northcutt/Williams

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no need for pack fans to get greedy as long as he doesnt want to play in the north.

If a player hates det that much, wouldnt he just ask for a trade then end up tanking the year?

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Northcutt/Williams

Matt Jones!!!!!11111!1!11One11@@22!11!2two111!!