Dr. Z is NOT an Idiot???!!!

Post #1 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:40 pm

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... l?bcnn=yes

Aside from calling Tynes and Gostkowski even, this is a pretty smart write-up but good ol' Dr. Zzzzzzzzz.

More imporantly and on topic: anybody notice how good his stuff has been this season? He's not as curmudgeonly as years past.

Post #2 » by **PR07** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:49 pm

I think he gushes about Justin Tuck a little too much, there's no doubt he's becoming a top playmaker, but the Giants best defensive player? Maybe most valuable.

JurassicJake · Post #3 » by **JurassicJake** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:26 pm

PacersRule07 wrote:I think he gushes about Justin Tuck a little too much, there's no doubt he's becoming a top playmaker, but the Giants best defensive player? Maybe most valuable.

Who would be better? I think he is a better pass-rusher than Osi, but and on the same level as Strahan. Tuck also can play DT, and do so very effectively. He also is a great run stuffer.

Post #4 » by **HCYanks** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:05 pm

Basketball Jesus wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/dr_z/01/29/matchups.offense/index.html?bcnn=yes

Aside from calling Tynes and Gostkowski even, this is a pretty smart write-up but good ol' Dr. Zzzzzzzzz.

More imporantly and on topic: anybody notice how good his stuff has been this season? He's not as curmudgeonly as years past.

I stopped reading him altogether a year or two ago, but damn, when he actually puts together in-depth analysis it seems like he can still write something good.

I will say that he made his prediction a week ago based off of a "hunch", well before doing any analysis on the game. He loses points for that.

UrbanLegendMD · Post #5 » by **UrbanLegendMD** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:09 pm

I always read Dr.Z out of a habit and he's not bad, but when he goes on reminiscing about players past or talking punters, ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.

Post #6 » by **Da Schwab** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:29 am

How could he take Booty McChin over Eli?

wigglestrue · Post #7 » by **wigglestrue** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:22 am

How does matching up offense vs. offense or defense vs. defense make any sense? Last time I checked, and forgive me if I'm wrong because I'm not a big football junkie, but last time I checked in football it's offense vs. defense and defense vs. offense. This ain't baseball, basketball, or hockey, or even soccer where the same player plays both sides of the ball.

UrbanLegendMD · Post #8 » by **UrbanLegendMD** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:34 am

wigglestrue wrote:How does matching up offense vs. offense or defense vs. defense make any sense? Last time I checked, and forgive me if I'm wrong because I'm not a big football junkie, but last time I checked in football it's offense vs. defense and defense vs. offense. This ain't baseball, basketball, or hockey, or even soccer where the same player plays both sides of the ball.

Because it's easier. Go player by player and compare them at each position. Defense vs Offense match ups are not as entertaining for an average reader.

UrbanLegendMD · Post #9 » by **UrbanLegendMD** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:36 am

And Tuck over Seymour? Injuries slowed down Richard, but just a little while ago he was one of the best Ends in football. Is Tuck really better right now?

DaGoodz · Post #10 » by **DaGoodz** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:40 pm

I do think Tuck gets overrated, he's like the third option on our DL.
He greatly benefits from Strahan and Osi.
But I hope he lives up to the hype Sunday, he better earn that contract extension

Post #11 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:58 pm

NurbekIL wrote:And Tuck over Seymour? Injuries slowed down Richard, but just a little while ago he was one of the best Ends in football. Is Tuck really better right now?

Seymour was pretty bad out there this season. Not terrible, but for a player of his caliber, he was pretty bad.

FakeScreenName123 · Post #12 » by **FakeScreenName123** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:49 pm

Basketball Jesus wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Seymour was pretty bad out there this season. Not terrible, but for a player of his caliber, he was pretty bad.

hopefully next year he'll be alot better. you could tell that injury really messed up his explosiveness off the line. He still managed to bull rush past dudes though once in a while.

Post #13 » by **J.Kim** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:52 pm

NurbekIL wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Because it's easier. Go player by player and compare them at each position. Defense vs Offense match ups are not as entertaining for an average reader.

Entertaining for an average reader? How so...

Post #14 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:46 pm

Because it

hermes · Post #15 » by **hermes** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:50 pm

nice break down by Dr. Z

DaGoodz · Post #16 » by **DaGoodz** » Mon Feb 4, 2008 5:36 am

DaGoodz wrote:I do think Tuck gets overrated, he's like the third option on our DL.
He greatly benefits from Strahan and Osi.
But I hope he lives up to the hype Sunday, he better earn that contract extension

BEST DT IN THE LEAGUE
THE NEW PROTOTYPE

Post #17 » by **J.Kim** » Mon Feb 4, 2008 7:17 am

DaGoodz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

BEST DT IN THE LEAGUE
THE NEW PROTOTYPE

Um. What?

Heat3 · Post #18 » by **Heat3** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:11 am

Dr. Z is anything but an idiot. He has that sweet gig of picking NFL games with Brooklyn Decker. That old dog can teach us all a trick or two.

gooGD · Post #19 » by **gooGD** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:20 am

DaGoodz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

BEST DT IN THE LEAGUE
THE NEW PROTOTYPE

Guys like Jason Taylor and Osi have really paved the way for the new prototypical DE/DL er.

Justin Tuck is nothing but a extension of those two. Tuck will be the eventual successor to Strahan once he retires.

Teams now want athletic, quick, powerful guys with good motors to be in DE. Its no longer about size, weight, and technicalities.

Al n' Perk No Layups! · Post #20 » by **Al n' Perk No Layups!** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:33 am

PacersRule07 wrote:I think he gushes about Justin Tuck a little too much, there's no doubt he's becoming a top playmaker, but the Giants best defensive player? Maybe most valuable.

He most likely is. Osi, despite the numbers he put up, disappointed me this year, throwing away the Philly game, he really didn't get enough pressure on the opposing QB. Justin was consistently great, he got pressure just about every game.