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Some rookie news/notes

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:48 pm
by Icness
Some of this is firsthand, some secondhand...

Non-prominent rookies looking good in camps:
Beau Bell LB Cleveland--he will be starting next to Wimbley. The coaches cannot believe he wasn't a 1st rounder the way he has "absolutely dominated" OTAs.

Brian Kehl LB NY Giants--has probably earned the top backup LB spot and could play in nickel packages right away

Andre Fluellen DT Detroit--displaying consistent fire in the belly and better lateral quickness than expected. He will replace Chuck Darby on passing downs and might get time at DE in their "beef" package.

Cody Wallace C SF--according to one 49er, he's been the best OL in camp regardless of position. He should start right away if he can master the OL calls. They are trying Chilo Rachal at RT but that's not working so well. Also, Ezra Butler probably would have won a starting job if he hadn't gotten busted for pot.

Dominique Barber S Houston--showing good range and instincts and has picked up the defense very quickly. If he stays healthy he will play, but that's a huge "if". They're happy with Antuan Molden too, probably their nickel back this year.

Durant Brooks P Washington--hit 5 punts in a row where he kicked it 55+ yards with over 4.5 sec hangtime, and he isn't afriad to run down an make the tackle either. Has impressed in limited trials as a kickoff specialist too. Fred Davis just got Lasix in hopes it helps his hands--apparently USC never tested his eyes and he was 20/300 in his left eye.

Marcus Howard DE Indy--they like what they've seen of a 235-pound DE; he's faster off the edge than Freeney and he's not afraid to attack the inside shoulder of the tackle either. Getting Elvis Dumervil comparisons.

And those struggling early...
Earl Bennett WR Chicago--great hands but has real poor acceleration and plays "like his feet are in mud". They want him to win the Y spot opposite Mark Bradley but the early indication is he won't beat out Marty Booker. That's not a good sign for Bears fans. At least Kyle Orton has impressed with his maturity and added leg strength.

Jeff Otah T Carolina--has missed all activities with a bad ankle, and his weight is getting to be a concern. In his place Jeremy Bridges has not looked good at RT either. Jake Delhomme looks better than expected, more zip on his midrange throws than before his injury. The deep ball still isn't there, but they almost never throw down the field anyways.

Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT--quote from a defensive teammate I got: "Dude ain't half as good as he thinks he is". Having trouble picking up the playbook and it looks like he's overly concerned about getting hurt.

Quentin Groves JAX--clearly not tough enough to play DE, and he needs a complete technique overhaul to play OLB. Keep your eyes on him as an IR stash. They are pleasantly surprised by LB Thomas Williams, their 5th rounder. He will likely see some action in their run-stuff package if he continues to impress. And they have already contacted Bruce Gradkowski about coming in and competing for the backup QB gig.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:44 pm
by Da Schwab
Looks like the Jints found another good pick in the 4th round (DeOssie, Cofield, Jacobs), but we obviously won't be able to tell until the season starts.

I Lawl'd at the Bears and their misery.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:37 pm
by NO-KG-AI
More Saint's! How's our training camp going? rookies and vets alike..

Re: Some rookie news/notes

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:08 pm
by CJ_18
Icness wrote:
Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT--quote from a defensive teammate I got: "Dude ain't half as good as he thinks he is".


:o

Somebody's a good teammate..

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:21 pm
by UrbanLegendMD
Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT--quote from a defensive teammate I got: "Dude ain't half as good as he thinks he is".


Somebody needs to shut the **** up cause he is in the presence of the future hall of famer.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:43 pm
by studcrackers
isnt it a little early to be giving troy polamalu that kind of praise?

Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2008 1:21 am
by High 5
Surprised Marcus Howard is staying at DE. He does have a motor and a mean streak. He may have single-handedly ruined Colt Brennan's career.

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2008 1:41 am
by VinnyTheMick
Great news about Kehl :)

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2008 5:51 am
by SportsWorld
Da Schwab wrote:I Lawl'd at the Bears and their misery.

Teams with the best upside in Chicago:
1) Cubs
2) Blackhawks
3) Bulls
4) White Sox
5) Bears

The Bears need to begin to rebuild if they don't do anything this year.

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:09 pm
by UrbanLegendMD
SportsWorld wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Teams with the best upside in Chicago:
1) Cubs


:rofl:

Posted: Mon Jun 2, 2008 10:51 pm
by PhilipNelsonFan
Any news on the Bengals' DTs Sims and Shirley? I know Shirley's court date came up recently and local press doesn't seem too interested in the defensive line.

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2008 3:37 pm
by ohara
Otah in Carolina finally got out on the field and by all accounts is looking very good. Not going to be anything for Carolina to worry about with Otah.

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2008 6:20 pm
by PR07
Glad to hear about Marcus Howard.

Posted: Sun Jun 8, 2008 9:05 pm
by A.J.
Dominique Barber S Houston--showing good range and instincts and has picked up the defense very quickly. If he stays healthy he will play, but that's a huge "if". They're happy with Antuan Molden too, probably their nickel back this year.


It's good to see Barber playing well. Hopefully he becomes a steal like his brother.

Re: Some rookie news/notes

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2008 5:24 am
by dukuduku
Icness wrote:Cody Wallace C SF--according to one 49er, he's been the best OL in camp regardless of position. He should start right away if he can master the OL calls. They are trying Chilo Rachal at RT but that's not working so well. Also, Ezra Butler probably would have won a starting job if he hadn't gotten busted for pot.


This is surprising, based on reports from the senior bowl and post-draft "grades" that believed he was drafted too early and not worthy of a 4th round selection. Translating "in camp" performance to on field production,,, well, we'll have to wait and see. If he beats Heitmann for the starting job (something that might not be all that difficult), you and your source, Icness, will be ahead of the current thoughts on this guy.