Random roster stuff

Post #1 » by **Icness** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:34 pm

Some is firsthand knowledge, some secondhand, some regurgitated from elsewhere...

--Rudi Johnson is absolutely on the trade block. My Bengals guy put it at 90% he's gone by the start of the season. Tampa Bay and Denver are both serious about him. Houston and Buffalo have called too.
also on the Bengals front, Chad Johnson's shoulder is worse than they are letting on. He can't put his own helmet on right now, no strength at all in his shoulder

--CLE is going to be rumored to pick up just about every CB you've heard of who gets cut, but they're not as desperate as you'd think. They're going to sign at least one guy, my guess is it won't be Ty Law or Ricky Manning but rather a guy like Ashton Youboty or Corey Ivy, a younger guy with upside. Law might get signed as a stop-gap because both safeties will miss the opener and he can fill that hole too, but I wouldn't expect him to stick around long unless he's great.

--Buffalo is fully prepared to play this season without Jason Peters. No way they acquiesce to his demands, zero zilch nada. Ralph Wilson would rather go 2-14 than set a precedent with renegotiating his deal. That Peters and his people haven't figured that out yet doesn't speak well of him or his future in BUF.

--All that Ronnie Brown trade talk is hooey, but Ricky Williams is truly back and as good as ever. And the MIA OL is better than you think--rookie Donald Thomas won the RG job with consistently great run blocking. Jake Long has learned a lot and Vernon Carey is being a good mentor, telling him why he didn't do so well on the left side and how Jake can avoid those mistakes.

--Look for Jason Hill to fill the Shaun McDonald/Mike Furrey role in SF for Martz--lots of catches, decent opportunities for YAC. Hill is bigger than Arnaz Battle and that's important because O'Sullivan tends to miss high when he misses. And my sources tell me Isaac Bruce is basically done.

--KC kicking is a freaking joke. In practice Tuesday they had to have Colquitt come in to kickoff because the kickers sent 11 straight kickoffs out of bounds and the return teams couldn't get any work in.

--Pittsburgh's OL is in the top 5 in run blocking but the bottom 5 in pass blocking. One Steeler told men he's be shocked if Big Ben survived 16 games. and Mendenhall is legit and will probably get more carries than Parker.

--Kyle Boller's career is probably over. His shoulder injury and how he's been throwing is exactly how Tim Couch looked at the end. He's had to learn how to brush his teeth and wash his hair lefthanded, that's how messed up his shoulder is.

Some names to watch who might be on the move soon:
Devery Henderson, TJ Duckett, Adrian Peterson the Bear, Shawntae Spencer, Kalvin Pearson, Paul Oliver, and three rookies who have flamed a la Buster Davis and Quentin Moses: Mario Maningham (as an IR stash), John Greco, and Jason Jones, much to my shock.

ChronicKerr · Post #2 » by **ChronicKerr** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:51 pm

Good stuff Ice. Keep it coming. As far as Rudi is concerned, would you see him playing a prominent role for either of those 4 teams hsould be be traded? Is his hamstring injury that bad??

Elway=GOAT · Post #3 » by **Elway=GOAT** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:03 pm

What would we have to give up to get Rudi? They are looking for WR help, we have plenty of #3's and #4's. I would not be willing to give up too much for a RB past his prime and plauged by injuries. But if healthy could be that red zone threat we have lacked from the running game for awhile now.

Post #4 » by **Da Schwab** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:52 pm

If KC has the chance to be catastrophically bad, how long will it take LJ and Gonzo to want out?

Post #5 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:11 pm

Wow, the Bills really need to sign Jason Peters, so what if they set a precedent, is it bad that you pay outstanding players big money? I think the precedent was set when they signed two other linemen to huge deals...

Obviously Bills fans aren't taking this well, here's his wikipedia entry........

Jason (Please Use More Appropriate Word) Peters (born January 22, 1982, Queen City, Texas) is fat **** (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who clearly wants to spend the rest of his life working at the local McDonalds.

Peters was selected to the Fat Lazy (Please Use More Appropriate Word) HOF in the summer of 2008.

Also, is Devery being moved, or cut? Is the coaching staff happy with Meachem's play enough to move Devery? Adrian Arrington has been impressive too from what I hear.

Post #6 » by **Da Schwab** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:30 pm

I went to Wiki to make sure that was real, and its hilarious.

ChronicKerr · Post #7 » by **ChronicKerr** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:30 pm

[quote="NO-KG-AI"]Wow, the Bills really need to sign Jason Peters, so what if they set a precedent, is it bad that you pay outstanding players big money? I think the precedent was set when they signed two other linemen to huge deals...

Obviously Bills fans aren't taking this well, here's his wikipedia entry........
[quote]
Jason (Please Use More Appropriate Word) Peters (born January 22, 1982, Queen City, Texas) is fat **** (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who clearly wants to spend the rest of his life working at the local McDonalds.

Peters was selected to the Fat Lazy (Please Use More Appropriate Word) HOF in the summer of 2008.[/quote]

Also, is Devery being moved, or cut? Is the coaching staff happy with Meachem's play enough to move Devery? Adrian Arrington has been impressive too from what I hear.[/quote]

I guess it depends if Reggie is out for the year or not, but you have the inside scoop on that right?

Post #8 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:13 pm

Reggie, as in Bush? He has a thigh bruise....

ChronicKerr · Post #9 » by **ChronicKerr** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:16 pm

Yes I am aware of the thigh bruise. You didn't create this thread??

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Post #10 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:17 pm

Sun Dec 09, 2007

ChronicKerr · Post #11 » by **ChronicKerr** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:22 pm

Post #12 » by **PhilipNelsonFan** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:44 pm

Any Cincinnati resident aware of the existence of a football team knows that trading Rudi Johnson for another WR is a horrible idea, but just for fun let's review the candidates:

Denver: Ugh. Really bad WR depth if Keary Colbert is your No. 2. I'd take Eddie Royal, but that means the Bengals will have added three rookie WRs this year. Not good.

Tampa Bay: Even worse WR depth. But if they offered up Jeremy Zuttah I wouldn't say no.

Houston: Jacoby Jones would be cool.

Buffalo: James Hardy on the Bengals would be liquid-concentrated awesome, but outside of that they have surprisingly less depth than I thought.

Hopefully, this little exercise tells you just how inept the Bengals (who have the NFL's best receiving corps even with a gimpy Chad Johnson) really are.

Al n' Perk No Layups! · Post #13 » by **Al n' Perk No Layups!** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:14 am

Icness wrote:Some names to watch who might be on the move soon:
Devery Henderson, TJ Duckett, Adrian Peterson the Bear, Shawntae Spencer, Kalvin Pearson, Paul Oliver, and three rookies who have flamed a la Buster Davis and Quentin Moses: Mario Maningham (as an IR stash), John Greco, and Jason Jones, much to my shock.

Manningham isn't gonna be an IR stash, he's come back from injury, has looked good in practice, had a good outing in the third preseason game against the Jets and had an excellent final preseason game against the Pats. He'll be on the team.

snazel · Post #14 » by **snazel** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:15 pm

Icness wrote:Some is firsthand knowledge, some secondhand, some regurgitated from elsewhere...

--CLE is going to be rumored to pick up just about every CB you've heard of who gets cut, but they're not as desperate as you'd think. They're going to sign at least one guy, my guess is it won't be Ty Law or Ricky Manning but rather a guy like Ashton Youboty or Corey Ivy, a younger guy with upside. Law might get signed as a stop-gap because both safeties will miss the opener and he can fill that hole too, but I wouldn't expect him to stick around long unless he's great.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Iceness.....where are you hearing that both Jones and Pool will be out for the opener? All i heard was that Brodney had a concussion and is recovering well and that Jones had some swelling in his knee, but it wasn't known to be serious. Everything I've been reading locally in the papers as well as in some online Browns publications is that they're expected to be full-go WEEK 1....

Post #15 » by **Icness** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:47 pm

snazel wrote:
Icness wrote:Some is firsthand knowledge, some secondhand, some regurgitated from elsewhere...

--CLE is going to be rumored to pick up just about every CB you've heard of who gets cut, but they're not as desperate as you'd think. They're going to sign at least one guy, my guess is it won't be Ty Law or Ricky Manning but rather a guy like Ashton Youboty or Corey Ivy, a younger guy with upside. Law might get signed as a stop-gap because both safeties will miss the opener and he can fill that hole too, but I wouldn't expect him to stick around long unless he's great.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Iceness.....where are you hearing that both Jones and Pool will be out for the opener? All i heard was that Brodney had a concussion and is recovering well and that Jones had some swelling in his knee, but it wasn't known to be serious. Everything I've been reading locally in the papers as well as in some online Browns publications is that they're expected to be full-go WEEK 1....

Pool is probably gonna play but they don't want to push him or play him too much. Jones' knee is a subject of ongoing mystery--some people think he was just trying to get out of the last preseason game, some think he's got a real problem. I would not expect him to play unless he's at 100% and I don't expect he'll make it thru 9 days of practice without that knee swelling up even more. Nick Sorensen will get the 1st team reps.