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A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:39 am
by kNiCk_PriDe
http://www.prosportspress.com/football_ ... nuary.html
The New York Giants run to repeat as Super Bowl Champions came to a halting stop this afternoon at the Meadowlands losing to the Philadelphia Eagles 23-11. Going on a miracle run of their own, the resurgent Eagles baffled the Giants all afternoon with their hard defense, and even tougher determination. Sound familiar?
It should. After making a similar run to the Super Bowl and creating a classic finish, the Giants were looked at as the favorites in the NFC, if not the NFL to repeat as Champions, especially after a strong beginning to the season. Through week 13, the Giants were rolling at an impressive 11-1 with sights set on a repeat performance.
What could stop them? They had overcome the loss of defensive leaders Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora to retirement and injury. David ‘Miracle Catch’ Tyree was out for the year. Star receiver Plaxico Burress was on the sidelines due to a hamstring injury, but was expected back in a couple of weeks, well before the playoffs. Despite this, they were winning.
The wheels to the season came off on the night of November 28th. Plaxico Buress and teammate Antonio Pierce were at New York City nightclub Latin Quarter when Plaxico’s gun, being held in the drawstring of his sweatpants accidentally went off.
The result? A bullet to the thigh, a season ending injury, a loss of nearly $30 million for Plaxico, and now an early vacation for the New York Giants.
Quote edited for length--IC
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:10 am
by Rooster
I really wanted to just sit on 16K posts for a while because it looks cool, but I can't leave this topoic here without a reply.
Off-field stuff (and off-court stuff in the NBA) is given way too much. Everything from wayward girlfriends to reduced cellphone calls to wearing sweatpants in a club, the last one being the missing piece of this whole Plaxico nightmare.
The Eagles slaughter the Cowboys and it has to be some off-field reason Dallas lost, right? As opposed to a whole bunch of on-field reasons the Eagles won. Same thing for the Giants - had to be the Plaxico situation, right? Even when he was out with his hamstring injury, they were still winning. What happened was that they went into an absolutely brutal section of their schedule, and went 1-3 as a result. If you need more clarification on what brutal scheduling can do to a team, ask Washington.
The Eagles should not be viewed as an underdog or Cinderella. They're the longest-standing contender in that conference. They're a top-notch organization. They have some of the best players at key positions. They're probably the best team in the NFC, thanks to Carolina's putrid showing.
A bullet ended the Giants' season. That bullet's name is Asante Samuel.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:55 pm
by Icness
Strangely I agree with both. Of course I am eating waffles right now...
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:04 pm
by DaGoodz
Rooster wrote:I really wanted to just sit on 16K posts for a while because it looks cool, but I can't leave this topoic here without a reply.
Off-field stuff (and off-court stuff in the NBA) is given way too much. Everything from wayward girlfriends to reduced cellphone calls to wearing sweatpants in a club, the last one being the missing piece of this whole Plaxico nightmare.
The Eagles slaughter the Cowboys and it has to be some off-field reason Dallas lost, right? As opposed to a whole bunch of on-field reasons the Eagles won. Same thing for the Giants - had to be the Plaxico situation, right? Even when he was out with his hamstring injury, they were still winning. What happened was that they went into an absolutely brutal section of their schedule, and went 1-3 as a result. If you need more clarification on what brutal scheduling can do to a team, ask Washington.
The Eagles should not be viewed as an underdog or Cinderella. They're the longest-standing contender in that conference. They're a top-notch organization. They have some of the best players at key positions. They're probably the best team in the NFC, thanks to Carolina's putrid showing.
A bullet ended the Giants' season. That bullet's name is Asante Samuel.
You obviously missed the point of the article, its not the distraction that killed the Giants. Missing Plaxico Burress killed them, they aren't the same team without him.
Its just like the Eagles aren't the same team withput Brian Westbrook, you can't take a important player pff your team and expect it not to affect you.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:06 pm
by LAKESHOW
sorry giant fans, but theyre done. finished. no more.
they wont go anywhere anytime soon. they will soon be calling for the firing of their head coach. maybe not next year, but as the losses pile up, and years of exiting playoffs lookin unprepared, the fans will call for his ouster. and he will eventually get fired.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:42 pm
by Flash3
^ you need to lay off the w/ever it is you're using.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:33 am
by Rooster
DaGoodz wrote:You obviously missed the point of the article, its not the distraction that killed the Giants. Missing Plaxico Burress killed them, they aren't the same team without him.
Its just like the Eagles aren't the same team withput Brian Westbrook, you can't take a important player pff your team and expect it not to affect you.
They were doing fine without Burress. 12-4, #1 seed, that comeback win over the Panthers? Couldn't be better. I don't think having anyone short of Reggie White would've won them that Eagles game.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:48 am
by tomgugliottamvp
LAKESHOW wrote:sorry giant fans, but theyre done. finished. no more.
they wont go anywhere anytime soon. they will soon be calling for the firing of their head coach. maybe not next year, but as the losses pile up, and years of exiting playoffs lookin unprepared, the fans will call for his ouster. and he will eventually get fired.
Quite possibly the stupidest post I've ever seen.
To address this topic in general, I agree. I think the absence of Burress really hurt the Giants but it is not the sole reason either. In the end, the Giants lost because they just didn't have it. Maybe when Osi comes back next year, Plaxico is gone, the special teams is upgraded, the OC is fired, Pierce is replaced at MLB, and if the Giants get a top flight WR they can regain that "it" that they lost.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:50 pm
by LAKESHOW
tomgugliottamvp wrote:LAKESHOW wrote:sorry giant fans, but theyre done. finished. no more.
they wont go anywhere anytime soon. they will soon be calling for the firing of their head coach. maybe not next year, but as the losses pile up, and years of exiting playoffs lookin unprepared, the fans will call for his ouster. and he will eventually get fired.
Quite possibly the stupidest post I've ever seen.
To address this topic in general, I agree. I think the absence of Burress really hurt the Giants but it is not the sole reason either. In the end, the Giants lost because they just didn't have it. Maybe when Osi comes back next year, Plaxico is gone, the special teams is upgraded, the OC is fired, Pierce is replaced at MLB, and if the Giants get a top flight WR they can regain that "it" that they lost.
i know i know, the truth hurts. very difficult to accept at this moment in time. but accept my words as truth, and it will ease the pain. THE GIANTS ARE DONE! they are never getting back to the superbowl, FACT. at least for several . . . several . . . several . . . years. and they will begin to underachieve. why? i know this coach. it happens. regardless of players, his style pounds on you and win or not, it gets old. and when it does get old, IT GETS OLD FAST. and once theyve taken down the title, there simply is nothing left in the tank to give to this coach.
so once again, bye bye, the GIANTS are done. sorry to bring the bad news, i kinda liked 'em.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:05 pm
by El Turco
they still have good young defense, good wr corps even without cheddar, overrated but a decent qb and a good o-line. they should be fine for couple more years.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:33 pm
by Welfare Fraud
Plaxico gave us Eagle fans nightmares. I don't find it hard to imagine that the Giants would have beaten the Eagles with Plax, he has a huge impact on how we play D.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:17 pm
by tomgugliottamvp
LAKESHOW wrote:tomgugliottamvp wrote:LAKESHOW wrote:sorry giant fans, but theyre done. finished. no more.
they wont go anywhere anytime soon. they will soon be calling for the firing of their head coach. maybe not next year, but as the losses pile up, and years of exiting playoffs lookin unprepared, the fans will call for his ouster. and he will eventually get fired.
Quite possibly the stupidest post I've ever seen.
To address this topic in general, I agree. I think the absence of Burress really hurt the Giants but it is not the sole reason either. In the end, the Giants lost because they just didn't have it. Maybe when Osi comes back next year, Plaxico is gone, the special teams is upgraded, the OC is fired, Pierce is replaced at MLB, and if the Giants get a top flight WR they can regain that "it" that they lost.
i know i know, the truth hurts. very difficult to accept at this moment in time. but accept my words as truth, and it will ease the pain. THE GIANTS ARE DONE! they are never getting back to the superbowl, FACT. at least for several . . . several . . . several . . . years. and they will begin to underachieve. why? i know this coach. it happens. regardless of players, his style pounds on you and win or not, it gets old. and when it does get old, IT GETS OLD FAST. and once theyve taken down the title, there simply is nothing left in the tank to give to this coach.
so once again, bye bye, the GIANTS are done. sorry to bring the bad news, i kinda liked 'em.
The truth doesn't hurt my friend, stupidity does.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:38 pm
by LAKESHOW
oh well, i wasnt gonna call you stupid, but if you insist.
as a giant fan, you quite honestly dont keep up with the latest action and news of your own team. you yourself say the absence of plaxico hurts the team. and now the latest report directly from your coach, (the individual who i am saying will be the reason for your teams demise), states he isnt sure about plaxicos return even when he passes all the checks and balances.
again, i am attempting to assist you here, since you do not have the knowledge as LAKESHOW does, your head coaches overly disciplined nature will wear thin and wear down this current crop of players, and soon . . . even you will be calling for his head. sorry giants fans, time to jump off the bandwagon.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:19 am
by DaGoodz
Rooster wrote:DaGoodz wrote:You obviously missed the point of the article, its not the distraction that killed the Giants. Missing Plaxico Burress killed them, they aren't the same team without him.
Its just like the Eagles aren't the same team withput Brian Westbrook, you can't take a important player pff your team and expect it not to affect you.
They were doing fine without Burress. 12-4, #1 seed, that comeback win over the Panthers? Couldn't be better. I don't think having anyone short of Reggie White would've won them that Eagles game.
Huh? The Giants were 11-1 with PLax and 1-4 without him. How were we fine without him? We obviously weren't the same team?
If Plax played he would of did the same thing to the Eagles that Fitz did, the Giants are 5-1 against the Eagles with Plax.
The Eagles were just lucky they caught the Giantys were they were down a key player, and they still couldn't get a ring. This year was all gift wrapped for them, and they still choke.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:23 am
by DaGoodz
LAKESHOW wrote:tomgugliottamvp wrote:LAKESHOW wrote:sorry giant fans, but theyre done. finished. no more.
they wont go anywhere anytime soon. they will soon be calling for the firing of their head coach. maybe not next year, but as the losses pile up, and years of exiting playoffs lookin unprepared, the fans will call for his ouster. and he will eventually get fired.
Quite possibly the stupidest post I've ever seen.
To address this topic in general, I agree. I think the absence of Burress really hurt the Giants but it is not the sole reason either. In the end, the Giants lost because they just didn't have it. Maybe when Osi comes back next year, Plaxico is gone, the special teams is upgraded, the OC is fired, Pierce is replaced at MLB, and if the Giants get a top flight WR they can regain that "it" that they lost.
i know i know, the truth hurts. very difficult to accept at this moment in time. but accept my words as truth, and it will ease the pain. THE GIANTS ARE DONE! they are never getting back to the superbowl, FACT. at least for several . . . several . . . several . . . years. and they will begin to underachieve. why? i know this coach. it happens. regardless of players, his style pounds on you and win or not, it gets old. and when it does get old, IT GETS OLD FAST. and once theyve taken down the title, there simply is nothing left in the tank to give to this coach.
so once again, bye bye, the GIANTS are done. sorry to bring the bad news, i kinda liked 'em.

And what team do you support LakeShow?
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:43 am
by Pharmcat
this was a great chance for the giants to repeat....this team was rolling until that plax thing, and it fell apart....its easy to put 2 and 2 together
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:33 am
by Rooster
DaGoodz wrote:Rooster wrote:DaGoodz wrote:You obviously missed the point of the article, its not the distraction that killed the Giants. Missing Plaxico Burress killed them, they aren't the same team without him.
Its just like the Eagles aren't the same team withput Brian Westbrook, you can't take a important player pff your team and expect it not to affect you.
They were doing fine without Burress. 12-4, #1 seed, that comeback win over the Panthers? Couldn't be better. I don't think having anyone short of Reggie White would've won them that Eagles game.
Huh? The Giants were 11-1 with PLax and 1-4 without him. How were we fine without him? We obviously weren't the same team?
If Plax played he would of did the same thing to the Eagles that Fitz did, the Giants are 5-1 against the Eagles with Plax.
The Eagles were just lucky they caught the Giantys were they were down a key player, and they still couldn't get a ring. This year was all gift wrapped for them, and they still choke.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5037/gamelogThe Giants are a truly incredible team, going 11-1 in the nine game Plax played.
3-0 without him prior to the slide looks fine to me. As I said, when the schedule gets tougher, teams lose.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:03 pm
by Little Italia
LAKESHOW wrote:sorry giant fans, but theyre done. finished. no more.
they wont go anywhere anytime soon. they will soon be calling for the firing of their head coach. maybe not next year, but as the losses pile up, and years of exiting playoffs lookin unprepared, the fans will call for his ouster. and he will eventually get fired.
You was right all along. Props.
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:53 pm
by LAKESHOW
"LAKESHOW" walkin up to the podium . . . he grabs the statuette for great prognistications . . . and says . . .
"I would like to thank moms . . . pops . . . I would also like to thank GOD for this honor . . ."
"and I also like to say I love you girls up in the balcony up there"
and in all humility i accept this award and appreciate this honor bestowed upon the SHOW, LITTLE ITALIA, YOU AAIIIIIGHT HOMEY!
Re: A Bullet in November Kills the Giants in January
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:37 pm
by ikidunot
The Plaxico Buress incident was the beginning of the downfall of the Giants.