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The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:35 am
by Ong_dynasty
Why do you guys think for such a gimmick play, the Wildcat (for its second year) is still having such success? It is especially quite interesting when its run by an RB.

The funny thing is the player who you assume to have such great success at it (Vick) seems to be struggling to gain anything from it.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:25 pm
by Icness
Miami runs it differently than most other teams. They actually bring in an extra OL, plus their base offense has 2 TEs most of the time. That means a lot of extra blockers--good ones too. Look at what Philly or Atlanta do when they run the "Wildcat"--same as base OL, it's just a running play without the handoff.

I think you saw a couple of plays where the Jets defended it perfectly: bring both safeties up into the box, outside the OLB. Bottle up the outside, force the run inside. Notice that they only did that when Ricky was getting the ball, they couldn't do it with Ronnie Brown because he just might throw it.

Watching Vick when he runs it, he seems indecisive. He needs fewer options and to just run the play.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:57 pm
by bigrich88
If Miami drafts Tebow, obviously not in the first round but possibly in 2nd or mid round, than they could make the wildcat even more succesful than it already has been. I know they drafted White last year but Tebow would be a more effective weapon in the wildcat formation and maybe they could either trade White or switch him to a different position.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:32 pm
by sunshinekids99
I see nothing wrong with keeping it with Brown as the wildcat guy. Keeping a guy like Henne makes more sense. He can add something different to the team. I see no need for Pat White and surely not to draft Tebow.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:42 pm
by lpsevier
Tebow won't be making it into the 2nd round anyway.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:24 pm
by Icness
Not to totally hijack the thread, but I've talked to several draft "insiders"--including guys at PFW and Scouts Inc.--and every single one of us would be absolutely shocked if Jacskonville doesn't take Tim Tebow with their 1st round pick. If he lasts that long, and he might not. Their owner sees Tebow as the savior of their franchise in north Florida.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:44 pm
by lpsevier
He could absolutely be a short term financial savior, and it is a business - so why not?

Garrard isn't exactly moving jerseys and putting fans in the seats.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:03 am
by Flash3
Ronnie Brown is the master of the WildCat offense, and from Miami's perspective it is part of our base offensive sets, no gimmick like other teams do it once or twice a game.

They drafted Pat White to bring a different dynamic to the WildCat, and we've seen very little of him, but maybe during this bye week, they may add a few plays for him to open up the WildCat formation.

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:17 am
by Pharmcat
Icness wrote:Miami runs it differently than most other teams. They actually bring in an extra OL, plus their base offense has 2 TEs most of the time. That means a lot of extra blockers--good ones too. Look at what Philly or Atlanta do when they run the "Wildcat"--same as base OL, it's just a running play without the handoff.

I think you saw a couple of plays where the Jets defended it perfectly: bring both safeties up into the box, outside the OLB. Bottle up the outside, force the run inside. Notice that they only did that when Ricky was getting the ball, they couldn't do it with Ronnie Brown because he just might throw it.

Watching Vick when he runs it, he seems indecisive. He needs fewer options and to just run the play.


+100

no need to repeat anything :D

Re: The success of the WildCat

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:47 pm
by UrbanLegendMD
Icness wrote:Miami runs it differently than most other teams. They actually bring in an extra OL, plus their base offense has 2 TEs most of the time. That means a lot of extra blockers--good ones too. Look at what Philly or Atlanta do when they run the "Wildcat"--same as base OL, it's just a running play without the handoff.

I think you saw a couple of plays where the Jets defended it perfectly: bring both safeties up into the box, outside the OLB. Bottle up the outside, force the run inside. Notice that they only did that when Ricky was getting the ball, they couldn't do it with Ronnie Brown because he just might throw it.

Watching Vick when he runs it, he seems indecisive. He needs fewer options and to just run the play.


I don't know why more teams are not doing it. The whole point of the wildcat is that there is an extra blocker. Why not bring in an OL who is used to blocking as an extra man?