Victor Wembanyama

[BIG BEN'S FRO]

We don't have a chance. We got talent, albeit young, and a pretty rounded roster. There's gonna be teams that don't have their Cade Cunningham who will go nuclear and tank to unprecedented levels

This is exactly right. Getting to number 5 will require the amount of roster sabotage and losing mentality that going to number 1 would do in a normal year. Think Houston Rockets and OKC level tanking efforts, only worse. Benching Cade won’t be enough, and as we know from this year, it certainly doesn’t guarantee you win.

I sense an 8 or later pick with hopefully more optimism and that we start developing our assets so Cade wants to stay.

Our path is fairly clear now. Path to playoff excellence is to get lucky in the lotto with a later pick or score big in free agency while we develop talent. Otherwise I would just take our time and do it right.

[buzzkilloton]

Hot take: but historically big risk in taking any player that tall. Their bodies tend to break down and they tend to have shortened career. For Victor's sake, I hope that's not the case for him.

Yup risk of a shorter career Yao Ming style or even worse Oden. Doesnt matter though hes potentially the greatest defender ever so you take him.

To be fair, in the case for Yao, the Chinese national team literally didn't allow him to rest in the offseason and just continued to truck along the FIBA/Olympics type of games each year after playoff runs in the NBA considering how much of an icon he was in China. That's got to have accelerated any type of body regardless of height considering all the research coming out on sleep and proper rest being the primary factors on building muscle and preventing injuries

The way players are insured and protected nowadays (load management era), I don't think Vic would ever get the type exposure to the grinder that Yao got

Bad example by me honestly. Yao was great it was just a name that popped in my head of a center who got hurt ending career early. He was a monster for the 7 years he played. Heck I think you take him 1 just for the 7 years he gives u.

[MotownMadness]

It's funny cause Chet looks so damn long against everyone else usually, then you see that

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[pistonpat]

I expect the Pistons to go from 25 wins to about 35 which will be a good jump. They continue to neglect shooting and that will limit them. Thought Weaver had a great draft and mediocre free agent and trade off season,especially w one of the few teams w cap space. I was not big on the Noel, Knox acquisitions and Bagley over pay. 35 wins last year would put your around the 10th pick..

[Pharaoh]

Mediocre free agency and trade?

Who were we supposed to sign? Who wanted to come here that we ignored?

After getting Ivey and Duren on Draft night what did we "need" to do?

Stewart - Duren
KO
Bey - Livers
Ivey
Cade - Hayes -CoJo

One could argue retaining Bags & Diallo were obvious given their age and the athleticism they bring.

Other than that we could have done nothing else, rolling into next season with a very young crew and maintaining maximum cap flexibility.

Instead we got a couple of vets to keep the kids focused and STILL have cap flexibility.

There is real value to having old pros on the roster, especially someone like Burks. Dude has shot over 40% from 3 the last 3 years in a row!

Also gotta remember what Noel was like when he got drafted. He's in a position here to be a good mentor for Duren.

Seems we are finally playing the "long" game and building through the Draft cause in theory we could roll with these 8 the next few years:

Stewart - Duren - Bags
Bey - Livers
Cade - Ivey - Hayes

Add a couple of wing shooters, a vet big as a enforcer and a vet guard and there's 12.

Patience is important though

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[buzzkilloton]

I expect the Pistons to go from 25 wins to about 35 which will be a good jump. They continue to neglect shooting and that will limit them. Thought Weaver had a great draft and mediocre free agent and trade off season,especially w one of the few teams w cap space. I was not big on the Noel, Knox acquisitions and Bagley over pay. 35 wins last year would put your around the 10th pick..

Get some cash ready if you think were winning 35. I'm expecting our vegas O/U to be 30 or less for sure.

[bstein14]

I expect the Pistons to go from 25 wins to about 35 which will be a good jump. They continue to neglect shooting and that will limit them. Thought Weaver had a great draft and mediocre free agent and trade off season,especially w one of the few teams w cap space. I was not big on the Noel, Knox acquisitions and Bagley over pay. 35 wins last year would put your around the 10th pick..

Get some cash ready if you think were winning 35. I'm expecting our vegas O/U to be 30 or less for sure.

If Weaver sees mid 30s as possible, I'd bet he pulls the plug on some of the vets at the trade deadline. I'm sure he'd prefer to win 40+ or under 30 games. Either make the play-in or give ourselves a better lottery pick.

[ElectricMayhem]

Wembanyama is going to be on the Spurs.

Are you saying the lottery is rigged and the NBA has already decided?

[theBigLip]

Even if our last lottery pick during the Cade era is anywhere in the top 10, we are likely to get a good player. It should be a deep draft

[Tecmo]

Wembanyama is going to be on the Spurs.

Are you saying the lottery is rigged and the NBA has already decided?

I think all signs point to the Spurs doing a massive tank job this season and luck is going to be on their side. Incoming David Robinson and Tim Duncan 2.0 type of scenario.

I'll also confess, I can be swayed with ease the league rigs the draft.

[Snakebites]

Wembanyama is going to be on the Spurs.

Are you saying the lottery is rigged and the NBA has already decided?

I think all signs point to the Spurs doing a massive tank job this season and luck is going to be on their side. Incoming David Robinson and Tim Duncan 2.0 type of scenario.

I'll also confess, I can be swayed with ease the league rigs the draft.

No matter how bad they are, the odds can't be better than 14% for the number one pick.

I have never bought into any "rigging" of the lottery by the league, but if there is any, it certainly wouldn't be for the benefit of San Antonio.

[Pharaoh]

The idea that the NBA rigs the Lottery is cool cause you can always make a case why it is/isn't rigged.


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[Tecmo]

Are you saying the lottery is rigged and the NBA has already decided?

I think all signs point to the Spurs doing a massive tank job this season and luck is going to be on their side. Incoming David Robinson and Tim Duncan 2.0 type of scenario.

I'll also confess, I can be swayed with ease the league rigs the draft.

No matter how bad they are, the odds can't be better than 14% for the number one pick.

I have never bought into any "rigging" of the lottery by the league, but if there is any, it certainly wouldn't be for the benefit of San Antonio.

and your take is practical and most likely right.

[bkseven]

I expect the Pistons to go from 25 wins to about 35 which will be a good jump. They continue to neglect shooting and that will limit them. Thought Weaver had a great draft and mediocre free agent and trade off season,especially w one of the few teams w cap space. I was not big on the Noel, Knox acquisitions and Bagley over pay. 35 wins last year would put your around the 10th pick..

Pistons were at their best last year when Grant came back. I don’t see this teaming winning more than 30 games like the other poster said. This team got younger. The only way they make a big jump in wins if Cade makes a big superstar jump in year 2 or even other players make big jumps.

[bkseven]

Wembanyama is going to be on the Spurs.

Are you saying the lottery is rigged and the NBA has already decided?

I think all signs point to the Spurs doing a massive tank job this season and luck is going to be on their side. Incoming David Robinson and Tim Duncan 2.0 type of scenario.

I'll also confess, I can be swayed with ease the league rigs the draft.

I think so as well