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Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in?

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Re: Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in? 

Post#41 » by Manocad » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:41 pm

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flow wrote:We can try all we want. It ain't happening. Not with this coach. Rest easy.


I don’t think it is either, but what worries me is the team trying for it and picking up meaningless wins only to then still miss out of the play-in whilst damaging our draft stock in the process.


With Casey at the helm, bad coaching will occur, look no further than Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions. Detroit hasn’t had a good coach for their franchises in quite some time.

The Lions' failures have no bearing whatsoever on what happens with the Pistons.
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Re: Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in? 

Post#42 » by Jackattaq » Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:08 pm

Manocad wrote:
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I don’t think it is either, but what worries me is the team trying for it and picking up meaningless wins only to then still miss out of the play-in whilst damaging our draft stock in the process.


With Casey at the helm, bad coaching will occur, look no further than Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions. Detroit hasn’t had a good coach for their franchises in quite some time.

The Lions' failures have no bearing whatsoever on what happens with the Pistons.


When it goes bad for the city and their teams it permeates throughout the city’s sports teams. When is the last time we’ve had a team to be proud of in Detroit? Tigers, phew, Lions? Kidding right? Wings (fingers crossed they are on the right track), Pistons? Good talent, but poor coaching, no structure. As a fan base of Detroit Sports we’ve gotten to where expectations are so low, we get excited about a HBO Hard Knocks fluff special. Or a #1 draft pick that didn’t bother to show up for preseason. Fans are committed to wanted more but the teams aren’t. SOL LIONS, SOP Pistons until they get a coach who can actually coach X’s and O’s instead of being a rah rah hype guy.
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Re: Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in? 

Post#43 » by Manocad » Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:45 pm

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With Casey at the helm, bad coaching will occur, look no further than Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions. Detroit hasn’t had a good coach for their franchises in quite some time.

The Lions' failures have no bearing whatsoever on what happens with the Pistons.


When it goes bad for the city and their teams it permeates throughout the city’s sports teams. When is the last time we’ve had a team to be proud of in Detroit? Tigers, phew, Lions? Kidding right? Wings (fingers crossed they are on the right track), Pistons? Good talent, but poor coaching, no structure. As a fan base of Detroit Sports we’ve gotten to where expectations are so low, we get excited about a HBO Hard Knocks fluff special. Or a #1 draft pick that didn’t bother to show up for preseason. Fans are committed to wanted more but the teams aren’t. SOL LIONS, SOP Pistons until they get a coach who can actually coach X’s and O’s instead of being a rah rah hype guy.

The geography doesn't matter either due to different ownership, and you can certainly chalk up the root cause of the lack of success ultimately to ownership making bad decisions. That's not dictated by geography so the idea that the failures of one Detroit team somehow permeate the other teams and affect their success is based in no reality whatsoever. And to make that claim then the reverse would also be true--that if one or two of the teams do get good then they'll all get good, right? And we all know that's not the case historically.

The only relevant comparison would be the Wings and Tigers since they're both owned by the Ilitches, and even then I think most people who follow both teams know that the Ilitch family seems to put more effort into making the Wings successful than the Tigers. And the Lions are almost always bad; have been for 60+ years. That ownership never seems to make the right decisions which supports my point.
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Re: Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in? 

Post#44 » by Invictus88 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:59 pm

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When it goes bad for the city and their teams it permeates throughout the city’s sports teams.

Following this reasoning we should never have had any championships for the Tigers, Pistons, or Red Wings.

The Lions have had 1 playoff win in the last 60 years which according to you should have weighed down the successes of all of the rest.

Your logic is invalid.
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Re: Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in? 

Post#45 » by Patrick27 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:24 pm

Give it a few weeks, then do this:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29t2le5m

Detroit receives: Westbrook, 2 future LA 1sts
LA receives: Burks, Bogdanovic, Noel

LA gets the shooting that Lebron just demanded.
Detroit buys out Westbrook, continues the tank, and stocks the future cupboards

Easy peasy. Win-win for everyone.
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Re: Should we really be trying to make the playoffs/play in? 

Post#46 » by zeebneeb » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:48 pm

Patrick27 wrote:Give it a few weeks, then do this:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29t2le5m

Detroit receives: Westbrook, 2 future LA 1sts
LA receives: Burks, Bogdanovic, Noel

LA gets the shooting that Lebron just demanded.
Detroit buys out Westbrook, continues the tank, and stocks the future cupboards

Easy peasy. Win-win for everyone.
As long as those first rounders come with little to no protections, I don't see a problem with the deal, if of course, the Pistons are 0-some number.

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