Game 10: Pistons (2-7) vs. Cavaliers (6-1) Nov. 4 7:00 PM EST

[bstein14]

Literally every single person on this board said Killian’s option should be picked up except Bstein. I questioned it but in the end thought his opition should be picked up.

I am and have always been die hard about giving Killian three seasons to hopefully get his s**t together and even I didn't say his option should be picked up. I don't know where you're getting that "literally every single person" because I can't think of ANYONE who said his option should be picked up.

I’m not going to look through all of your posts. But I know you’ve said that his option should have been picked up. There is no waiting throughout the season and then picking it up. Giving him three seasons is basically picking up his 4th year option. No skating around that one.

His option didn't need to be picked up until Oct 30th I believe... So you had some time to make that decision... I knew as soon as we only played him in one Summer League game that we were going to pick up his option though... because if we had doubts we likely would have wanted to see more from him in the Summer League as "the man" after Stew rested for the rest of the games.

[FloridaMan78]

I am and have always been die hard about giving Killian three seasons to hopefully get his s**t together and even I didn't say his option should be picked up. I don't know where you're getting that "literally every single person" because I can't think of ANYONE who said his option should be picked up.

I’m not going to look through all of your posts. But I know you’ve said that his option should have been picked up. There is no waiting throughout the season and then picking it up. Giving him three seasons is basically picking up his 4th year option. No skating around that one.

His option didn't need to be picked up until Oct 30th I believe... So you had some time to make that decision... I knew as soon as we only played him in one Summer League game that we were going to pick up his option though... because if we had doubts we likely would have wanted to see more from him in the Summer League as "the man" after Stew rested for the rest of the games.

Yea they should have waited. That 7 mil is a lot to keep his confidence up. And obviously that didn’t work anyways.

This is probably going to be the one knock on Weaver and him doubling down on him picking up his option so early.

[breezypeezy]

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The plan is to use him as a lamp post. Killian can bounce passes off his rump to a streaking Ivey or cutting Diallo.
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[Manocad]

Literally every single person on this board said Killian’s option should be picked up except Bstein. I questioned it but in the end thought his opition should be picked up.

I am and have always been die hard about giving Killian three seasons to hopefully get his s**t together and even I didn't say his option should be picked up. I don't know where you're getting that "literally every single person" because I can't think of ANYONE who said his option should be picked up.

I’m not going to look through all of your posts. But I know you’ve said that his option should have been picked up. There is no waiting throughout the season and then picking it up. Giving him three seasons is basically picking up his 4th year option. No skating around that one.

Wrong. I even posted that perhaps picking up his option is Weaver’s attempt at trying to not disenfranchise the kid and avoid admitting his own mistake. They could have not picked up his option and he’d still be playing; he’s under contract.

We don’t accept “I’m not going to bother to find the proof I say exists” ‘round these here parts, cowboy.

[buzzkilloton]

Literally every single person on this board said Killian’s option should be picked up except Bstein. I questioned it but in the end thought his opition should be picked up.

I dont remember saying that. If I did I'm surprised because I gave up on him long ago.

Although Ive been a Weaver Stan, I think he pulled the gun a little early on those extensions. He could have waited a couple weeks. I wonder if he would have changed his mind had he seen what Haye’s has done these past few weeks.

Thread where Bstein said summer league was make or break for Killian. IMO they should have made Killian prove it and play all those games.

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I reread that and your point of "everyone said we should pick it up" is false. Barely anyone said that and most people in the thread werent commenting on the extension. This thread was wrote in a way that it was a "Killian needs to look good in summer league" thread.

This thread is called "summer league 2022 make or break for Killian". Its not called "should we pick up Killians option". Most people posting in there were just talking about Killian needs to look good in summer league and not making any comments on anything contract related.

TBH alot of people myself included likely didnt even bother reading the massive first post and just skimmed the first pages before posting. You see the title and see people talking about summer league basketball. What I posted was a article from Edwards about what Killian needs to do to improve. I wasnt even talking about a contract whatsoever and barely added thoughts.

[buzzkilloton]

Literally every single person on this board said Killian’s option should be picked up except Bstein. I questioned it but in the end thought his opition should be picked up.

I am and have always been die hard about giving Killian three seasons to hopefully get his s**t together and even I didn't say his option should be picked up. I don't know where you're getting that "literally every single person" because I can't think of ANYONE who said his option should be picked up.

I’m not going to look through all of your posts. But I know you’ve said that his option should have been picked up. There is no waiting throughout the season and then picking it up. Giving him three seasons is basically picking up his 4th year option. No skating around that one.

Honestly if you reread the thread you would realize most people werent even commenting anything about the extension whatsoever.

The extension talk is almost like a side discussion in the thread. Like a few people are talking about you included but the tone is mostly about the thread title which is summer league and Killian. Most comments are purely like "I hope Killian doesnt play" or "Summer league means nothing" or "XXX shouldnt play".

[FloridaMan78]

I am and have always been die hard about giving Killian three seasons to hopefully get his s**t together and even I didn't say his option should be picked up. I don't know where you're getting that "literally every single person" because I can't think of ANYONE who said his option should be picked up.

I’m not going to look through all of your posts. But I know you’ve said that his option should have been picked up. There is no waiting throughout the season and then picking it up. Giving him three seasons is basically picking up his 4th year option. No skating around that one.

Honestly if you reread the thread you would realize most people werent even commenting anything about the extension whatsoever.

The extension talk is almost like a side discussion in the thread. Like a few people are talking about you included but the tone is mostly about the thread title which is summer league and Killian. Most comments are purely like "I hope Killian doesnt play" or "Summer league means nothing" or "XXX shouldnt play".

Summer league is the last time he played before he got his extension for the 2023-2024 season. That’s the point, that’s why it was make or break. The last chance to evaluate his play.

His contract of 7.4 mil that he’s going to make next year will go against our cap. It’ll likely be the last year we’ll have an advantage cap wise since the year after that the cap will sky rocket and every team will have cap space and we’ll probably have already extended Stewart and Bey.

We’ll probably also have to acquire a new back up point guard and spend nearly 20 mil on the backup point guard position.

Killian’s contract will make him a negative and we’ll have to include a pick to get rid of him, which we probably won’t do.

[buzzkilloton]

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We’ll probably also have to acquire a new back up point guard and spend nearly 20 mil on the backup point guard position.

Killian’s contract will make him a negative and we’ll have to include a pick to get rid of him, which we probably won’t do.

You linked that thread as proof that I said I was for a Killian extension. My ONE post END OF PAGE 3 said nothing about extending Killian. The post was a 100% copy paste with a website link of a Edwards article that matched up with the topic of Killian and summer league and even the article didnt mention extension.

Again if you read the thread you will find most posters arent talking about extensions at all. You and Bstein did on the first page I came in at the end of page 3 and barely read the early stuff. I've been on team cut or trade Kill since early season two.

[FloridaMan78]

We’ll probably also have to acquire a new back up point guard and spend nearly 20 mil on the backup point guard position.

Killian’s contract will make him a negative and we’ll have to include a pick to get rid of him, which we probably won’t do.

You linked that thread as proof that I said I was for a Killian extension. My post said nothing about extending Killian. The post was a 100% copy paste with a website link of a Edwards article that matched up with the topic of Killian and summer league and even the article didnt mention extension.

Again if you read the thread you will find most posters arent talking about extensions at all. You and Bstein did on the first page I came in at the end of page 3 and barely read the early stuff. I've been on team cut or trade Kill since early season two.

Actually rereading some threads and you specifically have said Killian sucks and to get rid of him lol.

I meant the guys that have been preaching patience and to wait. My point and Bsteins point was that this is it. This is the last chance to jump off the Killian train and I don’t think people understood the repercussions.

We’re stuck with Killian’s contract for the next two years.

[Kalamazoo317]

To be clear, I don't think Cade is an immediate flight risk. He strikes me as the type of dude who could easily play his whole career for the same team (which I'm 100% wanting to happen). I'm just reading his body language at the ends of some of these games and seeing his frustration and I feel for the dude. It's a reminder of the cost of tanking (not that I think we even intentionally are).

Obviously if he is who we think he is, it's only going to make him stronger, and he has to see the Bojan addition as Weaver at least trying to do what it takes to support him, but I'm just hoping this is our last true down season, because at a certain point in order to keep building a healthy culture, you have to see results in the win column.

(I never thought Grant Hill would want to leave either).