Pistons-Suns (7pm)

[breezypeezy]

Another slaughter in the paint.
Detroit significantly out rebounded and outscored in paint points again.

[Cowology]

What's ridiculous, is to assert that we don't need Ayton now that we've got Duren. That's just dumb.

It's resource management. That's cap space that can be allocated to a more impactful position. Adding a couple more wins to this season doesn't do anything for us. If anything you just stunt Durens development. At that point we aren't making moves and trading up for a C. Having both was never on the table.

[flow]

What's ridiculous, is to assert that we don't need Ayton now that we've got Duren. That's just dumb.

It's resource management. That's cap space that can be allocated to a more impactful position. Adding a couple more wins to this season doesn't do anything for us. If anything you just stunt Durens development. At that point we aren't making moves and trading up for a C. Having both was never on the table.

If Duren was half as good as you apparently think he's going to be, I might agree with you.

But again, no move, including signing Ayton, would have been for/about this season. But next season. And Duren won't be able to provide half of what Ayton can next season.

[buzzkilloton]

If Weaver really wants Ayton word is hes still on the trading block. Lowe mentioned Raptors and Mavs as suitors. Hes a darkhorse to be moved in a package for OG this deadline. He has a no trade clause but word is he will waive to go to alot of these teams. Most are saying hes more likely a offseason move then a deadline one though.

The Suns and CP3 dont seem to value Ayton like some Pistons fans who want to offer up a bag for him.

[Cowology]

What's ridiculous, is to assert that we don't need Ayton now that we've got Duren. That's just dumb.

It's resource management. That's cap space that can be allocated to a more impactful position. Adding a couple more wins to this season doesn't do anything for us. If anything you just stunt Durens development. At that point we aren't making moves and trading up for a C. Having both was never on the table.

If Duren was half as good as you apparently think he's going to be, I'd agree with you.

I'd say Ayton isn't half the player you apparently think he is. Dominating the Pistons is kind of a low bar right now. We make every team look good, but you also have Chris "Point God" Paul orchestrating the PNR to perfection. Duren would have had 20+ playing alongside him tonight too because 90% of his shots were uncontested at the rim.

Look around the league at how other teams allocate resources. Outside of Jokic & Embiid there simply aren't really any dominant C's. This isn't the 80's, 90's or even early 00's where C's ruled the planet. Overall, there is less talent at the C position than any other position in the league and it's not particularly close.

What we do need is an upgrade on the wing in the worst possible way. The Bey/Bojan/Stew pairing is clearly not up to snuff. Having an emotional reaction to a single game, when it's not indicitive of what's killing us this season isn't necessarily prudent or constructive.

It's almost always better to draft a C than get one in FA unless you are at the point where it's going to make a significant difference in your championship asperations. We aren't there. We aren't even close.

[flow]

It's resource management. That's cap space that can be allocated to a more impactful position. Adding a couple more wins to this season doesn't do anything for us. If anything you just stunt Durens development. At that point we aren't making moves and trading up for a C. Having both was never on the table.

If Duren was half as good as you apparently think he's going to be, I'd agree with you.

I'd say Ayton isn't half the player you apparently think he is. Dominating the Pistons is kind of a low bar right now. We make every team look good, but you also have Chris "Point God" Paul orchestrating the PNR to perfection. Duren would have had 20+ playing alongside him tonight too because 90% of his shots were uncontested at the rim.

Look around the league at how other teams allocate resources. Outside of Jokic & Embiid there simply aren't really any dominant C's. This isn't the 80's, 90's or even early 00's where C's ruled the planet. Overall, there is less talent at the C position than any other position in the league and it's not particularly close.

What we do need is an upgrade on the wing in the worst possible way. The Bey/Bojan/Stew pairing is clearly not up to snuff. Having an emotional reaction to a single game, when it's not indicitive of what's killing us this season isn't necessarily prudent or constructive.

It's almost always better to draft a C than get one in FA unless you are at the point where it's going to make a significant difference in your championship asperations. We aren't there. We aren't even close.

I watch Ayton play all the time. Not just tonight. He is as good as I think he is. He is underutilized in Phx. Can be far more than a p&r finisher. Talent is talent. Whether a center or not.

[Canadafan]

Ayton Ayton Ayton

[Uncle Mxy]

You're supposed to be glad that we held CP3 nearly scoreless.

Saw this at the bar, glad I was on bourbon at the time.

[Kalamazoo317]

Glad Beefstew hit a few threes down the stretch. His and Hayes' offense have both been in struggle town as of late. Duren joined them there last night as well. Another good game by Ivey. He's currently playing like our best player.

[Billl]

It's pretty weird that anyone thinks just signing ayton was ever an option. Phoenix showed they were going to match any offer.

[Manocad]

It's pretty weird that anyone thinks just signing ayton was ever an option. Phoenix showed they were going to match any offer.

Welcome to this board, where some people believe any available player can be had and Weaver screwed up if he didn't get said player. Like there is no such factor as the player having a preference and making his own choice.

[bstein14]

I was always on board giving Ayton the max..... but I was never a fan of giving up assets to get him on a max deal.

Even at this point, I'd gladly trade Burks + Noel + Bagley for him.... but I am not giving up any real assets for him because he doesn't have much trade value on a max deal IMO. 18 and 10 with solid D is good he's a good player.... but I wouldn't even give up Bojan and Burks for him on a max deal to be honest.