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Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season

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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#21 » by Invictus88 » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:05 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
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kellmellus50 wrote:See i told you they needed to add a center but he's only 6'8 oh well bad choice

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The Detroit Pistons announced this afternoon that the club has waived guard Jules Bernard. The team also announced that they have signed forward/center Devontae Cacok to an Exhibit-10 contract.


I think that we need to give him a long and hard look to see if he can make a firm impression on the defensive end. We give up penetration way too easily and it would be nice to force opposing players driving in out of the paint.
The Pistons already have two premiere shot blockers on the team.

Cade
Ivey
Bey
Stewart
Noel

Cade
Ivey
Bey
Stewart
Duren

Both of them are shot blockers, so the team never needs to have a small lineup on the floor. It is up to Casey to properly utilize his roster, and put both the players, and the team in a position to succeed.

If Casey starts the season with Stewart at the 5, and Bojan at the 4, its going to be more of the same, and a complete disaster. Casey does not react quickly to obvious problems, so the team will have to have a horrific start, to change course.

He is going to bend to the pressure of veterans, and start players who "deserve it" based purely off of years played, or loyalties, not basketball related reasons.

I beginning to think, knowing how Casey coaches, this team is going to have a wretched record again. I'm starting to accept that now.


I appreciate the thoughtful response but my posting was perhaps too subtle in its attempt at very juvenile humor :) . I suggest rereading the post that I quoted in my reply...
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#22 » by kellmellus50 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:33 am

I still think something may happen before the start of the season for a center. This roster still needs a change of some kind.
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#23 » by Pharaoh » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:11 am

kellmellus50 wrote:I still think something may happen before the start of the season for a center. This roster still needs a change of some kind.
What change and why?

Cade, Ivey, Bey, Stewart, Duren

Hayes, CoJo, Burks, McGruder, Diallo, Knox, Livers, BB, Bags, Noel

This is a developmental season and I'd like to think we'll let the kids play and learn on the job.

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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#24 » by edmunder_prc » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:38 am

zeebneeb wrote:
Invictus88 wrote:
kellmellus50 wrote:See i told you they needed to add a center but he's only 6'8 oh well bad choice

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The Detroit Pistons announced this afternoon that the club has waived guard Jules Bernard. The team also announced that they have signed forward/center Devontae Cacok to an Exhibit-10 contract.


I think that we need to give him a long and hard look to see if he can make a firm impression on the defensive end. We give up penetration way too easily and it would be nice to force opposing players driving in out of the paint.
The Pistons already have two premiere shot blockers on the team.

Cade
Ivey
Bey
Stewart
Noel

Cade
Ivey
Bey
Stewart
Duren

Both of them are shot blockers, so the team never needs to have a small lineup on the floor. It is up to Casey to properly utilize his roster, and put both the players, and the team in a position to succeed.

If Casey starts the season with Stewart at the 5, and Bojan at the 4, its going to be more of the same, and a complete disaster. Casey does not react quickly to obvious problems, so the team will have to have a horrific start, to change course.

He is going to bend to the pressure of veterans, and start players who "deserve it" based purely off of years played, or loyalties, not basketball related reasons.

I beginning to think, knowing how Casey coaches, this team is going to have a wretched record again. I'm starting to accept that now.


A Bey, Bojan, Stewart 3/4/5 is awful defensively and with our switch everything defense the Pistons opponents can really quickly switch onto someone slow or undersized and attack.

Bojan works with Gobert. Not with Stewart and Bey.
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#25 » by chrbal » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:41 am

kellmellus50 wrote:I still think something may happen before the start of the season for a center. This roster still needs a change of some kind.


Why?
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Post#26 » by kellmellus50 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:42 am

The preseason games showed that we lack size in the front court, opposing teams got a lot of second shots for easy put-ins.It
was hard to keep the opposing team off the glass.
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#27 » by Pharaoh » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:02 am

kellmellus50 wrote:The preseason games showed that we lack size in the front court, opposing teams got a lot of second shots for easy put-ins.It
was hard to keep the opposing team off the glass.
Which would could rectify by playing Duren or Noel more

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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#28 » by zeebneeb » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:11 am

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kellmellus50 wrote:The preseason games showed that we lack size in the front court, opposing teams got a lot of second shots for easy put-ins.It
was hard to keep the opposing team off the glass.
Which would could rectify by playing Duren or Noel more

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Exactly. This is a coach problem(potentially, but we all know Casey)and can be easily resolved. Noel is one of the best shot blockers in the league, and Duren is already by a massive margin, the best rebounder on the Pistons, with the potential to be a damn good shot blocker.

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Post#29 » by kellmellus50 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:07 pm

Does no one understand this?

Noel and Bagley are injured so all we have is Stewart and foul-prone Duren we still need another center !!!
Were short on big frontcourt players so when someone gets injured we have a major problem.

My solution is to drop or trade Rodney Mcgruder for a 250 lb 7 ft big man.
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#30 » by Uncle Mxy » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:39 pm

We just signed Devontae Cacok. Can't we use him at C? Oh wait, we just waived Devontae Cacok. LOL
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#31 » by chrbal » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:39 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:Does no one understand this?

Noel and Bagley are injured so all we have is Stewart and foul-prone Duren we still need another center !!!
Were short on big frontcourt players so when someone gets injured we have a major problem.

My solution is to drop or trade Rodney Mcgruder for a 250 lb 7 ft big man.


It’s simple, you want something of an old school center (although for some reason you seem to want to add a project) because a guys injured whose not really a great rebounder. Also because a depth center is going to maybe miss a few games and Duren being “foul prone”.

So what guy available is going to accept a depth role AND make an impact?

Dwight Howard isn’t coming here to be a depth guy/mentor. Project bigs available at this point aren’t going to be ready to make an impact.

And then the biggest issue. Even if we somehow added Howard, for example, it doesn’t really improve the team. We were awful in three point shooting last season, the roster is largely made up of guys on rookie deals and/or really young, and so many other issues to address. So getting essentially a designated rebounder doesn’t really affect the win total by any means, it only means players we’re looking to possibly build around will be playing significantly less.

Having said all that, we do need help on the boards. But we’ll get more out of that by the team improving there, not by remaking the roster for a specialist
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Re: Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season 

Post#32 » by breezypeezy » Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:36 pm

Stew is not an NBA center, I wish people would stop trying to slot him there. Our 2 centers are Duren and Noels.
Casey's an idiot with rotations,
it doesnt mean we have to emulate it and pretend something is what it is not.

To the topic, we dont need another marginal player, with the coach we have it would be an exercise in futility even if he was good.
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Re: lets pick up Charles Bassey ? Philly waived him 

Post#33 » by Manocad » Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:48 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:Does no one understand this?

Noel and Bagley are injured so all we have is Stewart and foul-prone Duren we still need another center !!!
Were short on big frontcourt players so when someone gets injured we have a major problem.

My solution is to drop or trade Rodney Mcgruder for a 250 lb 7 ft big man.

I think everyone agrees that this is a point of team weakness currently. What I think most people are struggling with is a determination that something needs to be done RIGHT NOW. If this team was slated to be a 45 win/2nd round playoff exit team and good defensive/rebounding center could put them in the 50+ wins/championship contender range, sure. But that's not where this team is at this point.
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Re: Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season 

Post#34 » by Invictus88 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:10 pm

I think it would be more appropriate to rename the title of this thread to: "Pistons need a 209lb 7'2" center" .

I think the preseason has given us all a dose of reality that ALL of our young players still have serious growth areas they need to address. The idea that we will instantly become competitive with our current roster composition after last season's record might be more of a pipe dream than some might want to admit.

I really don't see how we will do well or even just subpar in the first quarter of the season. And if we do badly to start there will be serious consideration given to entering the draft sweepstakes yet again.

We still lack talent. We are still paying for a decade and a half of ineptitude from a development standpoint. 2 or even 3 good drafts isn't enough to fix that.
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Re: Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season 

Post#35 » by kellmellus50 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:30 pm

I love the trade I told everyone at the beginning of the season we needed another center and we finally got one.
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Post#36 » by Invictus88 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:42 pm

My god I would be so terrified it kellmellus50 was Troy Weaver's RealGM account...
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Re: Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season 

Post#37 » by kellmellus50 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:02 pm

What can I say Me and Troy Weaver think the same about what the team needs to be successful.
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Re: Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season 

Post#38 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:04 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:What can I say Me and Troy Weaver think the same about what the team needs to be successful.


How's that working out so far? We've been the worst team in the league since 2020.
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Re: Pistons need a 250lb 7 ft center A.S.A.P. before Season 

Post#39 » by kellmellus50 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:09 pm

Remember what we had to start with, It's a work in progress, and next season we will make the playoffs (remember what I said)
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