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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#61 » by mattao313 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:23 am

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zeebneeb wrote:I can't argue with what your saying, but at some point winning is going to become a priority. At some point, Weaver is going to go into self preservation mode. You can't rebuild forever, and instead of drafting pieces in hopes that they will pan out, definitively good players will be added through trade, and free agency.


Agreed. Just think that when our pick is at least in the teens, we might be in a better position to make that kind of deal. Not top-5
What i shudder at is the blanket assumption that the Pistons are landing top 3. What if the Pistons land 6, or 7? The whole tank season is a complete bust.

Very rarely does a top tier talent get drafted at 6,7, or 8. If that does indeed happen, oh man.
Not necessarily Weaver got to pick that diamond in the rough. Us pistons fans know that's its guys that are stars in the lower half of the lottery.

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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#62 » by buzzkilloton » Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:43 am

Piston Pete wrote:Doesn’t Brandon Miller project to have a higher ceiling than Bridges?


Potentially because we havent see him in the pros his ceiling is higher. That said Miller could end up being another Jabari Smith jr who who is struggling big time. He could be Otto porter jr and just be a solid pro. The floor is not automatically Bridges its lower then that. Also Miller will be 20 on draft day hes a older fresh.

If it was last season I wouldnt be interested in this sort of trade. This season were further down the rebuild. The team is loaded with young players and next seasons draft isnt going to offer talent like Scoot or Wemby at the top so adding a sure thing player that adds wins makes sense.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#63 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:38 am

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zeebneeb wrote:I can't argue with what your saying, but at some point winning is going to become a priority. At some point, Weaver is going to go into self preservation mode. You can't rebuild forever, and instead of drafting pieces in hopes that they will pan out, definitively good players will be added through trade, and free agency.


Agreed. Just think that when our pick is at least in the teens, we might be in a better position to make that kind of deal. Not top-5
What i shudder at is the blanket assumption that the Pistons are landing top 3. What if the Pistons land 6, or 7? The whole tank season is a complete bust.

Very rarely does a top tier talent get drafted at 6,7, or 8. If that does indeed happen, oh man.


There are teams out there that have built success without any of their own top 3 picks. This is certainly the case for Denver, Golden State, and Milwaukee. And plenty of teams who have failed to get anything of substance from a top 3 pick.

There’s no guarantees. There never are. You can’t lose your way into a guaranteed top 3 pick and that’s exactly how it ought to be. If you want guaranteed success and no chance of it all going bust then NBA basketball isn’t the thing. Building a winner takes good decisions and a lot of luck.

We’ve been lacking in both for the last 15 years. I sure hope we’re starting to see a change in that.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#64 » by Spider156 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 am

For those who are salivating for Mikal Bridges. Yes he is worth our pick but only if it lands 4th.

I believe this is a 3 player lottery, wemby being the generational talent.

After that it's Scoot and Miller. I personally don't want the Thompson twins, I'd rather trade down, I'd trade it for Bridges but unfortunately he's worth more than the 4th pick and we'd be taking on a big contract. I'd rather take the rookie and throw money at another veteran SF.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#65 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:56 am

Would the Nets even want a lotto pick for Mikal? Doesn’t feel like a direction they’d head in.

I think it’s more likely they look to consolidate and use their draft assets to add another star, and that they see Mikal as a key piece on their next good team.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#66 » by Cowology » Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:36 am

Snakebites wrote:Would the Nets even want a lotto pick for Mikal? Doesn’t feel like a direction they’d head in.

I think it’s more likely they look to consolidate and use their draft assets to add another star, and that they see Mikal as a key piece on their next good team.
The Nets actually had started to build a solid roster prior to the Big 3's arrival. They had a good culture and appeared to be heading the right direction.

They blew it all up to add KD/Irving/Harding and things like culture & accountability went right out the window.

Now it kinda looks like they are trying to get back to that earlier version, with a roster full of solid, team first guys. Bridges would have fit in perfectly with that earlier roster, so it kinda makes sense he'd be a key piece of this one.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#67 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:56 am

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Snakebites wrote:Would the Nets even want a lotto pick for Mikal? Doesn’t feel like a direction they’d head in.

I think it’s more likely they look to consolidate and use their draft assets to add another star, and that they see Mikal as a key piece on their next good team.
The Nets actually had started to build a solid roster prior to the Big 3's arrival. They had a good culture and appeared to be heading the right direction.

They blew it all up to add KD/Irving/Harding and things like culture & accountability went right out the window.

Now it kinda looks like they are trying to get back to that earlier version, with a roster full of solid, team first guys. Bridges would have fit in perfectly with that earlier roster, so it kinda makes sense he'd be a key piece of this one.

I remember.

In fairness, the blowup of that core didn’t really solidify l until the Harden trade.

They originally had Dinwiddie, D’Angelo, Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert, etc.

They let Russell walk (okay, technically he was signed and traded for KD but they were going to let him walk) and signed KD and Kyrie with cap space.

They started that second season (KD missed season one) with a pretty deep roster around KD/Kyrie and control of all of their draft picks.

I thought and still think they could have built a winner at that point. It all went wrong with the Harden trade. That was one ego too many and they gutted their depth and draft capital- and Harden/Kyrie never even really fit on a basketball level, let alone a personal one.

Granted, they traded for Harden because they didn’t trust Kyrie to be around reliably, but I still think that roster with KD/Kyrie and Dinwiddie/Lavert/Harris/Allen could have done something.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#68 » by zeebneeb » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:17 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Agreed. Just think that when our pick is at least in the teens, we might be in a better position to make that kind of deal. Not top-5
What i shudder at is the blanket assumption that the Pistons are landing top 3. What if the Pistons land 6, or 7? The whole tank season is a complete bust.

Very rarely does a top tier talent get drafted at 6,7, or 8. If that does indeed happen, oh man.


There are teams out there that have built success without any of their own top 3 picks. This is certainly the case for Denver, Golden State, and Milwaukee. And plenty of teams who have failed to get anything of substance from a top 3 pick.

There’s no guarantees. There never are. You can’t lose your way into a guaranteed top 3 pick and that’s exactly how it ought to be. If you want guaranteed success and no chance of it all going bust then NBA basketball isn’t the thing. Building a winner takes good decisions and a lot of luck.

We’ve been lacking in both for the last 15 years. I sure hope we’re starting to see a change in that.
Let's hope the Pistons have a great offseason.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#69 » by Moses ShamMoses » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:33 pm

I basically skip over the posts where somebody *assumes* us getting Wembanyama or Scoot. We actually only have like a 27% chance of landing a top 2 pick. We have better odds to pick 6-7 unfortunately at our current spot. Its nice to dream but its not particularly useful until we see where the lotto balls fall.
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