Vegas win totals - Pistons at 28.5

[treefi]

Preseason over/under on how many wins for Pistons WITHOUT Cade would be around 20 then, right?

[zeebneeb]

Preseason over/under on how many wins for Pistons WITHOUT Cade would be around 20 then, right?

Sounds about right, but the Pistons current trajectory looks like under 20 this season, which no one saw coming.

15-49 now. Last year after game 64?

17-47, and last years team win the next game as well, making them 18-47.

Last years team also had four 2 game win streaks, and two 3 game wins streaks. This years team?

One 2 game win streak.

This years team is an order of magnitude worse then last years team. Its almost unbelievable how bad they are, compared to last year.

[Pharaoh]

Preseason over/under on how many wins for Pistons WITHOUT Cade would be around 20 then, right?

Sounds about right, but the Pistons current trajectory looks like under 20 this season, which no one saw coming.

15-49 now. Last year after game 64?

17-47, and last years team win the next game as well, making them 18-47.

Last years team also had four 2 game win streaks, and two 3 game wins streaks. This years team?

One 2 game win streak.

This years team is an order of magnitude worse then last years team. Its almost unbelievable how bad they are, compared to last year.

Wouldn't you expect this year's team to be a lot worse than last year's since Cade has been out and we've had 2 rookies start a load of games?

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[zeebneeb]

Preseason over/under on how many wins for Pistons WITHOUT Cade would be around 20 then, right?

Sounds about right, but the Pistons current trajectory looks like under 20 this season, which no one saw coming.

15-49 now. Last year after game 64?

17-47, and last years team win the next game as well, making them 18-47.

Last years team also had four 2 game win streaks, and two 3 game wins streaks. This years team?

One 2 game win streak.

This years team is an order of magnitude worse then last years team. Its almost unbelievable how bad they are, compared to last year.

Wouldn't you expect this year's team to be a lot worse than last year's since Cade has been out and we've had 2 rookies start a load of games?

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That goes into the whole, how much impact are the picks Weaver is taking, having?

Its either the coach is terrible, which we all know is true, or how good are the additions provided to the team, both picks, and free agents. It appears to be both have flamed out. What is Weaver building exactly?

So my question to you, is what are your expectations for next year? Is Cade really worth 20 wins? As you stated, rookies don't have much of an impact. So even if the team lands VW, or Scoot, whats the teams record next year?

This is why I've been so down on the team. How does a team add two rookies, who are playing well, two dead eye shooters, and not just be bad, but worse then last year, and the year before, and that roster!(2020-21 team)

That team was 19-45 after 64 games!

The "restoration" is getting worse each year. This is not how this is supposed to go, or what restoration means, in any universe.

Next year is Weavers super bowl. He absolutely, has to produce a team that wins. If not this whole thing is going to collapse in in itself like a neutron star.

TLDR;

Yes, I expected this team, even without Cade to not be worse then last years team, and not be worse then the 2020-21 team. Call me crazy, but adding high draft picks, and talent, if you've got it right, makes a team better, not worse. I'm out of excuses for Weaver, Gores, Casey, anyone involved with the Pistons franchise.

Shut up, and get it done.

[Pharaoh]

Sounds about right, but the Pistons current trajectory looks like under 20 this season, which no one saw coming.

15-49 now. Last year after game 64?

17-47, and last years team win the next game as well, making them 18-47.

Last years team also had four 2 game win streaks, and two 3 game wins streaks. This years team?

One 2 game win streak.

This years team is an order of magnitude worse then last years team. Its almost unbelievable how bad they are, compared to last year.

Wouldn't you expect this year's team to be a lot worse than last year's since Cade has been out and we've had 2 rookies start a load of games?

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That goes into the whole, how much impact are the picks Weaver is taking, having?

Its either the coach is terrible, which we all know is true, or how good are the additions provided to the team, both picks, and free agents. It appears to be both have flamed out. What is Weaver building exactly?

So my question to you, is what are your expectations for next year? Is Cade really worth 20 wins? As you stated, rookies don't have much of an impact. So even if the team lands VW, or Scoot, whats the teams record next year?

This is why I've been so down on the team. How does a team add two rookies, who are playing well, two dead eye shooters, and not just be bad, but worse then last year, and the year before, and that roster!(2020-21 team)

That team was 19-45 after 64 games!

The "restoration" is getting worse each year. This is not how this is supposed to go, or what restoration means, in any universe.

Next year is Weavers super bowl. He absolutely, has to produce a team that wins. If not this whole thing is going to collapse in in itself like a neutron star.

TLDR;

Yes, I expected this team, even without Cade to not be worse then last years team, and not be worse then the 2020-21 team. Call me crazy, but adding high draft picks, and talent, if you've got it right, makes a team better, not worse. I'm out of excuses for Weaver, Gores, Casey, anyone involved with the Pistons franchise.

Shut up, and get it done.

I don't believe we've gotten worse overall despite the record being worse.

We're incredibly young! Youth generally doesn't win much in the NBA.

We also don't have "connective tissue" on the roster - meaning none of our guys like Smart, Grant Williams, Aaron Gordon, Caruso etc

Plus we've got Hayes out there as a "starter" when it's abundantly clear the only role he's ever likely to have is as a bench player (at best)

You can claim Weaver has "missed" on Draft Day as much as you like but if 4 years from now the majority of his picks are all in the league as starters or quality bench players (Cade, Ivey, Duren, Stewart, even Bey) then you can't really say he missed.

Very few GMs Draft the absolute best possible player at that pick slot. That's pretty rare

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[buzzkilloton]

Looks like were very likely going to finish with the worst record this season. I didnt think we could do it but we should pull it off with Houston winning a couple in a row.

This is going to be the worst Pistons team of all time. We wont even hit 20 wins.

[chrbal]

2nd worst. We’d have to not win another game this season to be worse than the season before Isiah Thomas. Not much to be impressed by, but still

[buzzkilloton]

2nd worst. We’d have to not win another game this season to be worse than the season before Isiah Thomas. Not much to be impressed by, but still

Good point I actually forgot that team only won 16. That said are we sure we pass 16 wins this season?

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[zeebneeb]

2nd worst. We’d have to not win another game this season to be worse than the season before Isiah Thomas. Not much to be impressed by, but still

Good point I actually forgot that team only won 16. That said are we sure we pass 16 wins this season?

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Oh boy. If everyone on that list is out for the next game, its going to be absolutely unwatchable. I mean even for a few minutes.