Monty Williams introductory presser

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i just watched it

tom gores looks like richard greico from night of the roxbury lol

[Pharaoh]

I get the feeling Weaver has one more year and this offseason and trade deadline he is under pressure to be replaced. I don’t mind that at all to be honest. I think Weaver has done a wonderful job drafting players and getting the right front office together even though Monty is more Gores doing. I think Gores knew he needed Monty there knowing Weaver might get let go. I really think if Weaver can’t be creative enough this summer to get the veteran needed for our team, I’m afraid of what he’ll do at the trade deadline just to save his job. At the same time that sort of aggression is needed the way he got Duren.

Having said all of that, I’m looking at Ujiri likely staying with Raptors one more season. If he becomes available, that’s a guys I don’t mind replacing Weaver to be our general manager. I’m also looking at Scott Perry who was also a good reason the Pistons were contenders 20 years ago next to Dumars. After that I’d be keeping a close eye on the Bucks front office situation because they also have Dumars right hand man working there. These are all potential replacements for Weaver if he doesn’t get the job done this summer and trade deadline. It’s unfortunate Cade got hurt cuz it really delayed our team’s improvement and the NBA cursed us dropping to the fifth pick. It’s up to Weaver now to draft best available or trade down to maybe grab a few assets for a potential big trade by the deadline. The options are wide open for Weaver. I do believe sucking for 4-5 years we needed as many assets as possible drafting in the Lottery for this long and sometimes this is what it takes. Only way is up sure but I’m afraid more injuries and development derailment could spell an end to Weaver’s tenure with the Pistons.

That’s what I basically got out of the conference to be honest. It looks like there’s plenty of strong coaching staff, roster, that can be held down beyond Weaver. So thank you Weaver for all you’ve done but this is it man. It’s your last year and I have to believe that we’ll be better next season. Otherwise you just can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I’ve always said Weaver is Sam Hinkie since he got here. But this summer and next trade deadline he can prove he’s more capable of putting a team together beyond the draft. He’s signed Jerami Grant before, I think he needs to make that kind of splash again this summer and if I’m Gores I’d open up my wallet for a win now move like signing Jerami Grant. Otherwise, Weaver needs to get creative and guy like Kawhi or Blake isn’t the answer this time around. We need 2-3 more trades like Bogan and Burke if he can’t sign anyone great and unfortunately that talent is just not available in free agency this year. I think it’ll definitely be available in trade talks.

Where do you get the feeling Weaver has 1 more year from?

The guy who pays him just went out and got him the best coach he could AND paid a huge price to do so.

Isn't that a sign Gores is on board with his GM and believes in the plan he's been working on?

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[mattao313]

I know this is all about Monty, but the way Troy speaks fills me with absolutely no confidence. He sounds like a grown-up version of the wheelchair kid out of Malcolm in the Middle.

How the hell did he win over Tom Gores in his interview/s?

Lmao he is a God awful public speaker. He's probably much better in one on one situations.

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[flow]

I get the feeling Weaver has one more year and this offseason and trade deadline he is under pressure to be replaced. I don’t mind that at all to be honest. I think Weaver has done a wonderful job drafting players and getting the right front office together even though Monty is more Gores doing. I think Gores knew he needed Monty there knowing Weaver might get let go. I really think if Weaver can’t be creative enough this summer to get the veteran needed for our team, I’m afraid of what he’ll do at the trade deadline just to save his job. At the same time that sort of aggression is needed the way he got Duren.

Having said all of that, I’m looking at Ujiri likely staying with Raptors one more season. If he becomes available, that’s a guys I don’t mind replacing Weaver to be our general manager. I’m also looking at Scott Perry who was also a good reason the Pistons were contenders 20 years ago next to Dumars. After that I’d be keeping a close eye on the Bucks front office situation because they also have Dumars right hand man working there. These are all potential replacements for Weaver if he doesn’t get the job done this summer and trade deadline. It’s unfortunate Cade got hurt cuz it really delayed our team’s improvement and the NBA cursed us dropping to the fifth pick. It’s up to Weaver now to draft best available or trade down to maybe grab a few assets for a potential big trade by the deadline. The options are wide open for Weaver. I do believe sucking for 4-5 years we needed as many assets as possible drafting in the Lottery for this long and sometimes this is what it takes. Only way is up sure but I’m afraid more injuries and development derailment could spell an end to Weaver’s tenure with the Pistons.

That’s what I basically got out of the conference to be honest. It looks like there’s plenty of strong coaching staff, roster, that can be held down beyond Weaver. So thank you Weaver for all you’ve done but this is it man. It’s your last year and I have to believe that we’ll be better next season. Otherwise you just can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I’ve always said Weaver is Sam Hinkie since he got here. But this summer and next trade deadline he can prove he’s more capable of putting a team together beyond the draft. He’s signed Jerami Grant before, I think he needs to make that kind of splash again this summer and if I’m Gores I’d open up my wallet for a win now move like signing Jerami Grant. Otherwise, Weaver needs to get creative and guy like Kawhi or Blake isn’t the answer this time around. We need 2-3 more trades like Bogan and Burke if he can’t sign anyone great and unfortunately that talent is just not available in free agency this year. I think it’ll definitely be available in trade talks.

Where do you get the feeling Weaver has 1 more year from?

The guy who pays him just went out and got him the best coach he could AND paid a huge price to do so.

Isn't that a sign Gores is on board with his GM and believes in the plan he's been working on?

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It's a sign that Gores wanted Williams as the coach of his team. Nothing more.

That being said, I don't see Weaver being on the hot seat at this point.

[Han Solo]

Excited about this.

[flow]

Excited about this.

Yep, hope it works out.

[bstein14]

I would say Weaver isn't on the hot seat at all right now. Gores has hope we'll take a big step forward this year. If we're the worst team in the East again this year after hiring Monty and (likely) spending money on a FA starter then I could see Gores being a bit impatient and Weaver's seat getting warm. Right now our roster most likely still has us as a bottom 2 or 3 team in the East (especially if Hayes is still in the rotation unless he takes a big step forward on offense) we'd need a pretty huge jump to be in play for the play-in games.

[MortSahlfan]

Another important thing from this press conference is, we don't know **** about what's going on. It took this long for Monty to accept the offer because his wife have breast cancer.

Didn't he lose his previous wife in a car crash?

[MortSahlfan]

There were numerous times when both Tom and Troy would say how they "argued" . "Not a shouting match, but" .... Is Weaver openly admitting Monty was not his first choice? He talked about how Tom's thoughtfulness (usually a euphemism for money) changed their minds.

[FloridaMan78]

There were numerous times when both Tom and Troy would say how they "argued" . "Not a shouting match, but" .... Is Weaver openly admitting Monty was not his first choice? He talked about how Tom's thoughtfulness (usually a euphemism for money) changed their minds.

Yea it’s weird to see them openly admitting that. Usually Troy is super in house tight lipped about everything, no leaks about anything.

I doubt we find out exactly what they “argued” about. My guess is Troy wanted to go with someone else since Monty couldn’t and Gores didn’t think they were good enough. Luckily Monty became available and it worked out in the end.

[Drwho17]

I know this is all about Monty, but the way Troy speaks fills me with absolutely no confidence. He sounds like a grown-up version of the wheelchair kid out of Malcolm in the Middle.

How the hell did he win over Tom Gores in his interview/s?

Yes, press conferences aren't his thing.

[Snakebites]

There were numerous times when both Tom and Troy would say how they "argued" . "Not a shouting match, but" .... Is Weaver openly admitting Monty was not his first choice? He talked about how Tom's thoughtfulness (usually a euphemism for money) changed their minds.

Yea it’s weird to see them openly admitting that. Usually Troy is super in house tight lipped about everything, no leaks about anything.

I doubt we find out exactly what they “argued” about. My guess is Troy wanted to go with someone else since Monty couldn’t and Gores didn’t think they were good enough. Luckily Monty became available and it worked out in the end.

I sorta doubt this is the case as I don't think that he'd openly acknowledge that.

I think it's more likely there was disagreement about whether to go after him (again) after he said he was planning on taking a year off. I suppose it's also possible that Weaver had somebody he really liked among the field that Gores wasn't a fan of, but I don't think that's indicative of Williams not being the "first" choice. It's possible he wanted to make sure they secured Lee and didn't want to lose out on him while they waited to see if Monty came around.

Williams was Associate HC with the Thunder while Weaver was there- there's probably some connection there- we were speculated to be going after Williams in part based on that speculation from pretty much the moment he was fired.

Obviously these are just my guesses. It's possible there was a slip there. We'll never know.

[Spider156]

I get the feeling Weaver has one more year and this offseason and trade deadline he is under pressure to be replaced. I don’t mind that at all to be honest. I think Weaver has done a wonderful job drafting players and getting the right front office together even though Monty is more Gores doing. I think Gores knew he needed Monty there knowing Weaver might get let go. I really think if Weaver can’t be creative enough this summer to get the veteran needed for our team, I’m afraid of what he’ll do at the trade deadline just to save his job. At the same time that sort of aggression is needed the way he got Duren.

Having said all of that, I’m looking at Ujiri likely staying with Raptors one more season. If he becomes available, that’s a guys I don’t mind replacing Weaver to be our general manager. I’m also looking at Scott Perry who was also a good reason the Pistons were contenders 20 years ago next to Dumars. After that I’d be keeping a close eye on the Bucks front office situation because they also have Dumars right hand man working there. These are all potential replacements for Weaver if he doesn’t get the job done this summer and trade deadline. It’s unfortunate Cade got hurt cuz it really delayed our team’s improvement and the NBA cursed us dropping to the fifth pick. It’s up to Weaver now to draft best available or trade down to maybe grab a few assets for a potential big trade by the deadline. The options are wide open for Weaver. I do believe sucking for 4-5 years we needed as many assets as possible drafting in the Lottery for this long and sometimes this is what it takes. Only way is up sure but I’m afraid more injuries and development derailment could spell an end to Weaver’s tenure with the Pistons.

That’s what I basically got out of the conference to be honest. It looks like there’s plenty of strong coaching staff, roster, that can be held down beyond Weaver. So thank you Weaver for all you’ve done but this is it man. It’s your last year and I have to believe that we’ll be better next season. Otherwise you just can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I’ve always said Weaver is Sam Hinkie since he got here. But this summer and next trade deadline he can prove he’s more capable of putting a team together beyond the draft. He’s signed Jerami Grant before, I think he needs to make that kind of splash again this summer and if I’m Gores I’d open up my wallet for a win now move like signing Jerami Grant. Otherwise, Weaver needs to get creative and guy like Kawhi or Blake isn’t the answer this time around. We need 2-3 more trades like Bogan and Burke if he can’t sign anyone great and unfortunately that talent is just not available in free agency this year. I think it’ll definitely be available in trade talks.

Where do you get the feeling Weaver has 1 more year from?

The guy who pays him just went out and got him the best coach he could AND paid a huge price to do so.

Isn't that a sign Gores is on board with his GM and believes in the plan he's been working on?

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No quite the contrary in my opinion. Monty is a no brainer coach for any general manager. Gores didn’t want to pay Lee or Ollie who the next GM could have a problem with. This way Weaver can still go after his contract expires. That’s how it seems like in my opinion. Getting Monty has nothing to do with Weaver, it just so happens he’s worked with him before and they agreed he’s the guy to get. There’s nothing guaranteeing Weaver from keeping his job here until an extension is made. Otherwise with such a hire, is Weaver up next for another extension? We’ll see

[Pharaoh]

I get the feeling Weaver has one more year and this offseason and trade deadline he is under pressure to be replaced. I don’t mind that at all to be honest. I think Weaver has done a wonderful job drafting players and getting the right front office together even though Monty is more Gores doing. I think Gores knew he needed Monty there knowing Weaver might get let go. I really think if Weaver can’t be creative enough this summer to get the veteran needed for our team, I’m afraid of what he’ll do at the trade deadline just to save his job. At the same time that sort of aggression is needed the way he got Duren.

Having said all of that, I’m looking at Ujiri likely staying with Raptors one more season. If he becomes available, that’s a guys I don’t mind replacing Weaver to be our general manager. I’m also looking at Scott Perry who was also a good reason the Pistons were contenders 20 years ago next to Dumars. After that I’d be keeping a close eye on the Bucks front office situation because they also have Dumars right hand man working there. These are all potential replacements for Weaver if he doesn’t get the job done this summer and trade deadline. It’s unfortunate Cade got hurt cuz it really delayed our team’s improvement and the NBA cursed us dropping to the fifth pick. It’s up to Weaver now to draft best available or trade down to maybe grab a few assets for a potential big trade by the deadline. The options are wide open for Weaver. I do believe sucking for 4-5 years we needed as many assets as possible drafting in the Lottery for this long and sometimes this is what it takes. Only way is up sure but I’m afraid more injuries and development derailment could spell an end to Weaver’s tenure with the Pistons.

That’s what I basically got out of the conference to be honest. It looks like there’s plenty of strong coaching staff, roster, that can be held down beyond Weaver. So thank you Weaver for all you’ve done but this is it man. It’s your last year and I have to believe that we’ll be better next season. Otherwise you just can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I’ve always said Weaver is Sam Hinkie since he got here. But this summer and next trade deadline he can prove he’s more capable of putting a team together beyond the draft. He’s signed Jerami Grant before, I think he needs to make that kind of splash again this summer and if I’m Gores I’d open up my wallet for a win now move like signing Jerami Grant. Otherwise, Weaver needs to get creative and guy like Kawhi or Blake isn’t the answer this time around. We need 2-3 more trades like Bogan and Burke if he can’t sign anyone great and unfortunately that talent is just not available in free agency this year. I think it’ll definitely be available in trade talks.

Where do you get the feeling Weaver has 1 more year from?

The guy who pays him just went out and got him the best coach he could AND paid a huge price to do so.

Isn't that a sign Gores is on board with his GM and believes in the plan he's been working on?

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No quite the contrary in my opinion. Monty is a no brainer coach for any general manager. Gores didn’t want to pay Lee or Ollie who the next GM could have a problem with. This way Weaver can still go after his contract expires. That’s how it seems like in my opinion. Getting Monty has nothing to do with Weaver, it just so happens he’s worked with him before and they agreed he’s the guy to get. There’s nothing guaranteeing Weaver from keeping his job here until an extension is made. Otherwise with such a hire, is Weaver up next for another extension? We’ll see

Didn't Weaver just get extended not long ago?

Hired in 2020 for 4 years.

And according to this was extended in the summer of 2022

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2022/12/21/detroit-pistons-nba-troy-weaver-contract-extension/69748315007/

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[Invictus88]

I get the feeling Weaver has one more year and this offseason and trade deadline he is under pressure to be replaced. I don’t mind that at all to be honest. I think Weaver has done a wonderful job drafting players and getting the right front office together even though Monty is more Gores doing. I think Gores knew he needed Monty there knowing Weaver might get let go. I really think if Weaver can’t be creative enough this summer to get the veteran needed for our team, I’m afraid of what he’ll do at the trade deadline just to save his job. At the same time that sort of aggression is needed the way he got Duren.

Having said all of that, I’m looking at Ujiri likely staying with Raptors one more season. If he becomes available, that’s a guys I don’t mind replacing Weaver to be our general manager. I’m also looking at Scott Perry who was also a good reason the Pistons were contenders 20 years ago next to Dumars. After that I’d be keeping a close eye on the Bucks front office situation because they also have Dumars right hand man working there. These are all potential replacements for Weaver if he doesn’t get the job done this summer and trade deadline. It’s unfortunate Cade got hurt cuz it really delayed our team’s improvement and the NBA cursed us dropping to the fifth pick. It’s up to Weaver now to draft best available or trade down to maybe grab a few assets for a potential big trade by the deadline. The options are wide open for Weaver. I do believe sucking for 4-5 years we needed as many assets as possible drafting in the Lottery for this long and sometimes this is what it takes. Only way is up sure but I’m afraid more injuries and development derailment could spell an end to Weaver’s tenure with the Pistons.

That’s what I basically got out of the conference to be honest. It looks like there’s plenty of strong coaching staff, roster, that can be held down beyond Weaver. So thank you Weaver for all you’ve done but this is it man. It’s your last year and I have to believe that we’ll be better next season. Otherwise you just can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I’ve always said Weaver is Sam Hinkie since he got here. But this summer and next trade deadline he can prove he’s more capable of putting a team together beyond the draft. He’s signed Jerami Grant before, I think he needs to make that kind of splash again this summer and if I’m Gores I’d open up my wallet for a win now move like signing Jerami Grant. Otherwise, Weaver needs to get creative and guy like Kawhi or Blake isn’t the answer this time around. We need 2-3 more trades like Bogan and Burke if he can’t sign anyone great and unfortunately that talent is just not available in free agency this year. I think it’ll definitely be available in trade talks.

Where do you get the feeling Weaver has 1 more year from?

The guy who pays him just went out and got him the best coach he could AND paid a huge price to do so.

Isn't that a sign Gores is on board with his GM and believes in the plan he's been working on?

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It's a sign that Gores wanted Williams as the coach of his team. Nothing more.

That being said, I don't see Weaver being on the hot seat at this point.

The inner quote screams of having a narrative first and then awkwardly just making things up / stating assumptions that aren't proven as a way to substantiate it.

Some of the claims like Grant being a win now acquisition are just bad.

The Grant acquisition was all about recognizing:
1. Grant having untapped potential to thrive in a bigger role and gain value.
2. That with rising salary caps Grant's contract would be much more of a bargain by the time we decided to trade him.
3. Our unused cap space was best utilized by investing it in players who would gain in value and not worry too much about fit since we were expected to lose anyway.

By doing the Grant transactions (both signing and then trading later) he basically manufactured the value of Jalen Duren.

This is what a good GM does folks.

[Pharaoh]

Watching it now and first take away is Gores actually mentioning how much Weaver hates the stage.

Lots of people are terrible public speakers - doesn't mean much.

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[Pharaoh]

Fact the players - apparently ALL of them except Bojan - were there for the presser.

That's pretty rare

Monty seems pretty impressed by their character

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[whitehops]

cool fact about bringing in stephen silas as assistant, besides being the rockets head coach the last few years he was also an assistant for the warriors in curry's first two seasons and an assistant in dallas for luka's first two seasons.

not that it means much, just a cool opportunity for him.