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Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league"

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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#41 » by treefi » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:14 am

Sort wrote:I think I might be in the minority here, but I think Duren is a better prospect than Ivey. Some of that is a knock on Ivey, but mostly, Duren already has elite rebounding and better than average passing and positional defense. He needs a high post floater like Bam and to get better with one or two dribbles in terms of shot creation, and obviously, his defense has a lot of work to do with rotations and challenging shots. But I saw someone learning as the year went by. Injuries are a slight concern.

One thing about Weaver, I think he's higher on Duren than I am. Glad no such dumb trades like this junk have any chance of happening.

As someone who remembers watching NBA during peak Dwight Howard, there is no question he was a top 10 talent in this league. While Monty might be a little hyperbolic here, I don't disagree with it entirely. Duren really could be that good.


I'm with you, and I like Ivey more than most. IMO Cade, Duren and Ivey all have potential (of course, not likely) to be a top 10 talent in this league, and I think it's a fairly even toss-up who is the more valuable player in 2025/2026.
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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#42 » by kierkegaard » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:21 am

I now know who Duren reminds me of when running up and down the floor. That gait is Chris Weber 100%. So there's that.
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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#43 » by Spider156 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:22 am

Between Cade and Ivey lobbing it to duren and cleaning up the glass, I can see him making 6-8 Fgs a game doing that. I can see Duren easily averaging 20/14/3 and that’s very good for a center. He could spend the rest of his career focusing on FTs and go to moves, by 28 he could dominate the NBA.
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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#44 » by buzzkilloton » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:32 am

I dont think its hyperbole. Maybe more of a top 15 guy but he could turn a Bam A type center depending on how he develops. He showed a ton as the youngest player ITL.
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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#45 » by MortSahlfan » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:10 pm

Stew and others have said Duren had another growth spurt. I want him more like Dwight Howard. You're going to need a big man who can defend to win now. Embiid in the East, Jokic in the West, and a lot of other big guys. I'd like him to dunk everything in sight. Obviously, using both hands for layups, learning to use the glass, half-hooks, but instead of time on practicing jumpers, I'd use that time for free-throws. Let the opposing team adjust to us.
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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#46 » by chilluminati » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:23 am

He just looks better and better everytime we get a glance at his progress. Monty is saying all the right things, we know he has a lot of work ahead of him to get to that point, but I see no reason why he can't be a top 5 center in the league in less than 3 years.
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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#47 » by zeebneeb » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:30 am

If Jalen grew some more, he's going to be one of the biggest Centers in the league(came in 6'11 250lbs)and with his quickness, and leaping ability, oh boy. He could be a legit 7', and now be 270.

Good luck league.
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Post#48 » by Pharaoh » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:27 am

Get some shooting around Duren, Ivey and Cade and we don't know what they could become.

It's why I'm down for Cam Johnson even at a hefty price point. That's my long term option cause in 3 years we'll know what Duren, Ivey and Cade are actually capable of

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Post#49 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:37 am

Pharaoh wrote:Get some shooting around Duren, Ivey and Cade and we don't know what they could become.

It's why I'm down for Cam Johnson even at a hefty price point. That's my long term option cause in 3 years we'll know what Duren, Ivey and Cade are actually capable of

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Agreed. We need shooters at SF/PF to spread the floor for the big 3 (Ivey, Cade, Duren)
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Post#50 » by Pharaoh » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:49 am

Piston Pete wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Get some shooting around Duren, Ivey and Cade and we don't know what they could become.

It's why I'm down for Cam Johnson even at a hefty price point. That's my long term option cause in 3 years we'll know what Duren, Ivey and Cade are actually capable of

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Agreed. We need shooters at SF/PF to spread the floor for the big 3 (Ivey, Cade, Duren)
Hendricks at #5

Decline Burks - offer Cam 30 mil

Duren
Stewart
Hendricks
Bojan
Johnson
Livers
Ivey
Cade
Hayes

There's your 9 man rotation.

Trade Wiseman, Bagley & #31 for a guard who can shoot and come at me later.

Plus there's the remaining cap space too so add your guard of choice for approx 7 mil

1 more year. Patience people. Can't build a skyscraper overnight

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Re: Monty... "Duren can be a top 10 player in the league" 

Post#51 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:55 am

Draft Hendricks at 5
Emoni Bates at 31
Sign Cam

Ivey / Hayes
Cade / Burks / Bates
Cam / Bogey / Livers
Hendricks / Stew / Bagley
Duren / Wiseman

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