Are You Happy With What Weaver Did Well Last Night?

[Canadafan]

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[Pharaoh]

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I laughed when I saw that at the presser.

Wonder what Halle thinks of Troy

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[Snakebites]

If Utah offered 9, 28, and a 2025 1st….we could have easily negotiated 9/16 if we wanted to.

Which makes me think Weaver and Co really like Ausar

There’s…really no basis for this claim.

[mattao313]

I wasn't a fan of either thompson twin but this draft was so open after the 3rd puck that I'm not too mad at it, it can turn out good I just hope he doesn't bust we can't afford another bust.

I'm not a huge fan of the Sasser trade we really need wings and guard shouldn't have been a priority in the slightest. It's was a few nice wing players out there we could have found a 6'1 3&d guy in fa.

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[tmorgan]

I wasn't a fan of either thompson twin but this draft was so open after the 3rd puck that I'm not too mad at it, it can turn out good I just hope he doesn't bust we can't afford another bust.

I'm not a huge fan of the Sasser trade we really need wings and guard shouldn't have been a priority in the slightest. It's was a few nice wing players out there we could have found a 6'1 3&d guy in fa.

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I know this is a little cynical, but if drafting Sasser leads us to trading Killian to San Antonio for a Wemby autographed jersey, I’m all for it.

[mattao313]

I wasn't a fan of either thompson twin but this draft was so open after the 3rd puck that I'm not too mad at it, it can turn out good I just hope he doesn't bust we can't afford another bust.

I'm not a huge fan of the Sasser trade we really need wings and guard shouldn't have been a priority in the slightest. It's was a few nice wing players out there we could have found a 6'1 3&d guy in fa.

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I know this is a little cynical, but if drafting Sasser leads us to trading Killian to San Antonio for a Wemby autographed jersey, I’m all for it.

Lmao you know my stance on Killian I'd do it for a pair of autographed socks let alone jersey.

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[JLiv]

It was fine. I voted yes, it’s all a dice roll. Who knows whether Ausar will be Rondae Hollis Jefferson or Scottie Pippen? Whether Hendricks’ ceiling is Marvin Williams with a green light or Jaren Jackson Jr? The truth is we got pick 5 in a draft that experts said had a top 3. Chances are the experts are wrong. Most top 3’s don’t all end up as all stars. Chances are a guy drafted after that will become a star. Brandon Miller could be Wesley Johnson or Paul George. No one knows bro. Scoot Henderson could be Dennis Smith Jr. Maybe he’s a healthy D Rose. No one knows bro.

Weaver took the person he and other draft experts perceived as the highest potential guy still there. Potential is the key word. Because no one knows for certain what’ll happen.

I remember observing the Winslow vs Johnson arguments on here before I started posting like that. Turns out it was a pointless argument. Booker was the guy. Some of y’all say you knew all along, and maybe you had a hunch, but if anyone knew for sure he’d turn out like that, he wouldn’t have been on the board when we picked. 6 years from now there’ll be some guy on this board reminiscing on the Troy Weaver years saying how foolish it was for us not to draft Anthony Black or Bilal Coulibaly with the 5th pick. Time can make a fool out of anyone. Observations made as time passes will affirm some people’s current beliefs. They will make it known that they were right. They won’t discuss when it turns out they were wrong about mythical prospect number 183947. It’s okay, no one will remember or care, because no one knows bro.

Don’t lose sleep over trades that may or may not have been on the table, prospects that may or may not have the realization they should’ve gone back to school, or how the pre-free agency roster sucks - because none of us know what the future holds. No one knows. If you think you know, go check your old big boards. As you scroll through, you’ll realize no one knows.

[Uncle Mxy]

Doctor doctor, hold me now, lay your hands on me... but I think we have two more players than we did before. I'm hoping this means we get rid of two players somehow, that there's something resembling a plan. This came from the brain trust who's paying two underperforming #2 pick Cs at the moment. We'll see. Kiss my Sasserfras if you don't like my opinion.

[pistons773]

https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/2023/3/28/23657469/amen-ausar-thompson-twins-2023-nba-draft-overtime-elite

I was hoping for a trade down and Hendrix but I'm warming to Ausar. This article is a good read. The effort, drive and desire are definitely there.

[Billl]

As far as the actual draft, I think weaver got his guy. Despite what many on the board wanted in terms of a stretch 4, I don't think weaver was targeting anyone like that. We've seen the bigs he's brought in so far an he definitely has a "type" there. We'll see how he develops for us.

As for fit, I get the complaints, but lets keep some perspective. Most of the guys aren't going to be on the team when we actually are contending. And cade and Ivey? Well, we will only be contending with them as a backcourt if they improve their efficiency as well. They both seem to be hard working guys, so I fully expect they will.

The part I wasn't thrilled about so far is not clearing out our frontcourt log jam. We still have the whole free agency period to make a move, but we don't want to start monty off with another disgruntaled bigman.

[Pharaoh]

It was fine. I voted yes, it’s all a dice roll. Who knows whether Ausar will be Rondae Hollis Jefferson or Scottie Pippen? Whether Hendricks’ ceiling is Marvin Williams with a green light or Jaren Jackson Jr? The truth is we got pick 5 in a draft that experts said had a top 3. Chances are the experts are wrong. Most top 3’s don’t all end up as all stars. Chances are a guy drafted after that will become a star. Brandon Miller could be Wesley Johnson or Paul George. No one knows bro. Scoot Henderson could be Dennis Smith Jr. Maybe he’s a healthy D Rose. No one knows bro.

Weaver took the person he and other draft experts perceived as the highest potential guy still there. Potential is the key word. Because no one knows for certain what’ll happen.

I remember observing the Winslow vs Johnson arguments on here before I started posting like that. Turns out it was a pointless argument. Booker was the guy. Some of y’all say you knew all along, and maybe you had a hunch, but if anyone knew for sure he’d turn out like that, he wouldn’t have been on the board when we picked. 6 years from now there’ll be some guy on this board reminiscing on the Troy Weaver years saying how foolish it was for us not to draft Anthony Black or Bilal Coulibaly with the 5th pick. Time can make a fool out of anyone. Observations made as time passes will affirm some people’s current beliefs. They will make it known that they were right. They won’t discuss when it turns out they were wrong about mythical prospect number 183947. It’s okay, no one will remember or care, because no one knows bro.

Don’t lose sleep over trades that may or may not have been on the table, prospects that may or may not have the realization they should’ve gone back to school, or how the pre-free agency roster sucks - because none of us know what the future holds. No one knows. If you think you know, go check your old big boards. As you scroll through, you’ll realize no one knows.

Excellent post.

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[reanimator]

I'll wait and see. I'm HIGHLY skeptical of Cade/Ivey/Ausar all coexisting and Weaver's team building in general, but I'd like to at least have a sample size to make a judgement call.

[zeebneeb]

I'll wait and see. I'm HIGHLY skeptical of Cade/Ivey/Ausar all coexisting and Weaver's team building in general, but I'd like to at least have a sample size to make a judgement call.

Yup. Even as Monty said in his presser;

"Around 35-40 games, you'll get an idea of what you have."

I am extremely skeptical of that trio, and was very vocal about it, but I'll wait to watch before I create the thread.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think what it ultimately comes down to is I trust Weaver is a better talent evaluator than I am, but I disagree with his team building philosophies. I would personally place shooting ability above athleticism and he seems to be the opposite.

[zeebneeb]

I think what it ultimately comes down to is I trust Weaver is a better talent evaluator than I am, but I disagree with his team building philosophies. I would personally place shooting ability above athleticism and he seems to be the opposite.

This is my concern. It's like having a new restaurant, and you badly need a person who specializes in desserts, so you hire bread maker.

97.1 was talking about it, and said it best;

"Weaver is collecting assets on a spreadsheet, not building a functional team."

First few months of the season are going to tell the tale, thats for sure.

[Kalamazoo317]

But Ivey also turned out to be a much better shooter than I thought. Some of the gamble here seems to be that players on our roster can improve as shooters. Our ceiling is largely going to be based on how that bet turns out, IMO.

[Laimbeer]

That is a strangely worded poll question.

[whitehops]

i really liked the sasser pick, even with the trade up. giving up a couple future 2nds is little in the scheme of things. a point of attack defender and great floor spacer is a great complement to both cade and ivey, should be a good 3-guard rotation. hayes and cojo have been our POA defenders for the last couple years so it'll be interesting to see how that shakes out.

i really wanted walker but at least ausar is used to playing off-ball and can feed off of cade and ivey. he's regularly been compared to iguodala and if he can become an "all star role player" then it'll be a good pick. he seems to have the character/mindset and ability to be one so only time will tell.

[Sort]

The Pistons lost the draft during the Draft Lottery. In terms of being at the fifth position, anybody declaring Ausar is a failure and the second coming of Iguodala is only making a guess. Should Pistons fans be happy with the draft? No, they came in fifth in a three-person draft. Could it still work out?

That's what the season is for. I do like Ausar and Sasser as people, as hard workers, and Monty is one of the best player development coaches in my opinion. Seems like we should give them some benefit of the doubt for right now.

[Kalamazoo317]

I honestly disagree that it was a 3 person draft. It was a 1 person draft: Wemby and everyone else. I think there's more separation between Wemby and Scoot/Miller than between Scoot/Miller and the rest of the top 10.