Which of these Bojan trades would you make?

[vege]

All those picks are laughably bad, and the only good player in that list is Hunter, so I would only consider #5. Atlanta wouldn't do it tho.

[theBigLip]

Great question BStein! The answers are all over the place.

I would only consider 1or 2 so we don’t take on any money for next year. Moving Bagley gets us even more money, although I do like 2 and getting our pick back as well.

[SuperBad]

2# to get the pick back, Fourier is not that bad. It just opens up lots of options and we still have another shooter. Works out even better now that we have Harris.

[whitehops]

pretty much since we acquired bojan i've maintained he has more value on the court than trade value. his defense makes him almost unplayable in the playoffs for contending teams and rebuilding teams aren't going to give up a first rounder or a good prospect for him.

i'd much rather find ways to clean up the roster by shipping off hayes, wiseman and bagley first. unfortunately i don't think attaching bojan is enough to convince teams to take on those projects.

[Spider156]

Bogan will only net you a first round pick if you are taking on a long contract. Best example is Nurkic 3 years. That’s not a bad move by us if we trade trade Bagley with Bogan and get a first round pick and Nurkic. That’s the type of trade I’m expecting that would net us a first round pick.

I think most fans want the first round pick not to draft the player but to trade the asset.

If you ask me what’s gonna happen. I’d say Weaver is gonna try to find a trade that gets us more assets or a solid rotational player that could be part of the core for a few years. Essentially we will not make a trade for the star player people want right now. The plan is to pay Cade first then Stewart then Ivey duren and Ausar. That’s complete in 2-3 seasons and that’s when we’ll make the trade for another player. In the meantime they’re going to surround every rookie with veteran shooters.

[Kalamazoo317]

The best trade by far is #2. Why?

Because it opens up all of our first round picks.

We can then trade our expirings and 2-3 FRPs for a star player like Siakam for example. OG is good for 1-2 picks. Lavine level. Ingram could easily ask for a trade and we are set to make the trade happen. So BY FAR #2 is a BIG YES YES YES.

Fournier is not a bad player. With Monty you never know what you can get. Fournier can easily become valuable by trade deadline as he is an expiring contract.

I’m against trading any future firsts to star hunt until we have at least one homegrown all-star on the roster. Trading for a star only works if you’re pairing them with one you already have, IMO.

I agree but first you need your first round pick back to get the option

I’m saying I’m against exercising the option currently, so there’s no hurry

[Canadafan]

Can't see why Knicks would make that move. Fournier is expiring.
It would be great to get Hunter for him.

[Spider156]

Can't see why Knicks would make that move. Fournier is expiring.
It would be great to get Hunter for him.

If they want to take it to the second round of playoffs they’re gonna need Bogan. He can get them there for sure. Fournier has played poorly for them. Contract wise though you’re right it doesn’t make sense. Randle is the guy to get in my opinion but it’s not the personality we need in the locker room. Hunter is the right guy for sure.

[bstein14]

I'm wondering what the six people who would not do any of those deals are expecting in return for him. At least once of those deals should appeal to most people because they offer a variety of different things.

#1 appeals to people wanting more cap space for next year.
#2 appeals to people who want our own pick back
#3 Gets a top 10 protected pick from a team who just missed the playoffs
#4 Gets a 1st rounder and a young prospect in Williams
#5 Gets a rotation player and a first round pick that likely will convey next season.
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I can certainly see why people wouldn't want one or two of those but to not like a single one must mean they value Bojan pretty highly... and hit shooting and skillset helping our young guys by spreading the floor.

[Lyonfan1]

If forced to make a decision, then the Chicago package is easily the best right?

Ball is 24 and is averaging 13 points, 5-7 assists, and 4-5 Rebs per over the last 3 years, and has going from shooting 30% from 3 in his early 1-2 years to now hitting 37%, 38%, and 42% the last 3 years from deep.... Why on earth would the Bulls do this?

BB and Lonzo offer virtually identical cap numbers and both for 2 years...

Killian (with his RFA qualifier and Patrick Williams make almost identical money)

so Chicago lets go of a 26 year old PG that is solid defender, plus 3 point shooter now, and who many rank as a top 20 PG in the NBA- and couple him with a 21 year old "stretch 4" that is near 41% from 3, and average 10 plus and 4 rebs at age 21... THEN THEY THROW IN A FIRST ROUNDER? For a point guard who isn't as good as Lonzo at "ANYTHING" and a 34 year old 3/4 who can't defend?

They get older, worse players with similar contracts and give up a first?

[bstein14]

If forced to make a decision, then the Chicago package is easily the best right?

Ball is 24 and is averaging 13 points, 5-7 assists, and 4-5 Rebs per over the last 3 years, and has going from shooting 30% from 3 in his early 1-2 years to now hitting 37%, 38%, and 42% the last 3 years from deep.... Why on earth would the Bulls do this?

BB and Lonzo offer virtually identical cap numbers and both for 2 years...

Killian (with his RFA qualifier and Patrick Williams make almost identical money)

so Chicago lets go of a 26 year old PG that is solid defender, plus 3 point shooter now, and who many rank as a top 20 PG in the NBA- and couple him with a 21 year old "stretch 4" that is near 41% from 3, and average 10 plus and 4 rebs at age 21... THEN THEY THROW IN A FIRST ROUNDER? For a point guard who isn't as good as Lonzo at "ANYTHING" and a 34 year old 3/4 who can't defend?

They get older, worse players with similar contracts and give up a first?

Lonzo missed last year, and is expected to miss this year too. He might never be the same player, if/when he is able to return.

[Piston Pete]

Darkhorse team to keep an eye on for Bagley and/or Bojan might be the Clippers.

They are in win-now mode and have multiple expirings they could send us - maybe with a pick?

Expirings:
Marcus Morris
Nicolas Batum
Robert Covington

[Pharaoh]

Darkhorse team to keep an eye on for Bagley and/or Bojan might be the Clippers.

They are in win-now mode and have multiple expirings they could send us - maybe with a pick?

Expirings:
Marcus Morris
Nicolas Batum
Robert Covington

What picks do the Clips have to send?

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[Piston Pete]

Darkhorse team to keep an eye on for Bagley and/or Bojan might be the Clippers.

They are in win-now mode and have multiple expirings they could send us - maybe with a pick?

Expirings:
Marcus Morris
Nicolas Batum
Robert Covington

What picks do the Clips have to send?

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You tell me

[bstein14]

Darkhorse team to keep an eye on for Bagley and/or Bojan might be the Clippers.

They are in win-now mode and have multiple expirings they could send us - maybe with a pick?

Expirings:
Marcus Morris
Nicolas Batum
Robert Covington

What picks do the Clips have to send?

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You tell me

Clippers could pick swap 2027, trade 2028 first, pick swap 2029.

Nothing anytime soon. They could of course send a handful of 2nd rounders but OKC controls their firsts for a while still (24, 25, 26)

[Piston Pete]

Just looked it up. Clippers future 1st rounders:

2024 - To OKC

2025 - Own or OKC (via OKC swap for HOU 11-30 or LAC)

2026 - To OKC

2027 - Own

2028 - Own

2029 - Own

[flow]

Can't see why Knicks would make that move. Fournier is expiring.
It would be great to get Hunter for him.

Maybe the Knicks are trying to win? That is the goal, afterall. Winning. Not playing fantasy cap space lottery pick bingo on an endless loop.

[Canadafan]

Can't see why Knicks would make that move. Fournier is expiring.
It would be great to get Hunter for him.

Maybe the Knicks are trying to win? That is the goal, afterall. Winning. Not playing fantasy cap space lottery pick bingo in an endless loop.

[Canadafan]

Well, rumblings out of summer league are Knicks wre looking to deal Fournier. Get our 1st back Troy. Even though we're nearing the end of that and looking like we'll only have to give them 2 second rounders soon