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Post#41 » by Piston Pete » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:56 am

I personally had GG over Miller because I saw GG more and Miller was more of an unknown.

No idea about possible character concerns or if he interviewed well. Those may or may not have been issues at all.
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Post#42 » by Pharaoh » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:10 am

Piston Pete wrote:I personally had GG over Miller because I saw GG more and Miller was more of an unknown.

No idea about possible character concerns or if he interviewed well. Those may or may not have been issues at all.
Just trying to work out why a dude built like that with game like that got drafted so low.

Watching highlights of him now I'm surprised he wasn't drafted sooner.

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Post#43 » by Piston Pete » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:14 am

Pharaoh wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:I personally had GG over Miller because I saw GG more and Miller was more of an unknown.

No idea about possible character concerns or if he interviewed well. Those may or may not have been issues at all.
Just trying to work out why a dude built like that with game like that got drafted so low.

Watching highlights of him now I'm surprised he wasn't drafted sooner.

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Prob should have been.

Ivey
Cade
Ausar
Miller
Duren

That would have been great. Would have made for a fun, young core to watch over the next 5-12 years
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Post#44 » by Cowology » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:24 am

Sooo...Sasser can beat up on a buncha scrubs, but plays like trash against even ends of the bench NBA players. Got it.

If he keeps this up he can be the new Bey; 3 terrible games followed by an All-Star caliber performance. Smh
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Post#45 » by Spider156 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:51 am

Piston Pete wrote:
Spider156 wrote:Sasser can guard the point guard that’s what he does. He’s not a point guard.

Positions these days are about what you can guard
not about what you can do.

Sasser is a score first guard, he won’t run an offense unless he has to and that means injuries. Otherwise I don’t see why Ausar doesn’t run the offense off the bench. If Ausar starts, there’s always gonna be a Cade Ivey Ausar or Monte Morris that can run the point guard even when Sasser is playing.


So by your own words - that would make Sasser a PG

Yes but he doesn’t have to run the offense as a point guard. Offensively he’s more of a shooting guard.
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Post#46 » by NYPiston » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:19 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Saban Lee might be a good comparison for Sasser from what I saw in Summer League.

Not in terms of how they play or what they bring to the table….but in terms of level of player.

I think Sasser = Lee in terms of decent 3rd PG off the bench. Can be primary backup from time to time, but never gets to the point where he earns starting consideration.I don’t see either becoming legit PG2 worthy level.


Nah, Lee couldn't defend worth a lick and Sasser is a far better shooter historically while Lee is more athletic.
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Post#47 » by hoophabit » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:24 pm

Sure, it's only one game and the summer league reduced personnel finale, but 40 is noteworthy as is the 5 assists with 0 turns. Only time will tell, but one encouraging sign with Sasser is he often has his best plays at winning time. I don't think it's unreasonable to find a little hope for him in his SL finale performance.
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Post#48 » by treefi » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:21 pm

hoophabit wrote:Sure, it's only one game and the summer league reduced personnel finale, but 40 is noteworthy as is the 5 assists with 0 turns. Only time will tell, but one encouraging sign with Sasser is he often has his best plays at winning time. I don't think it's unreasonable to find a little hope for him in his SL finale performance.


Exactly. He might’ve had the best game of anyone over the entire summer league. The 0 turnovers part of that line is very impressive, IMO…

Good thing, because I was starting to feel a little concerned. Now I’m back to where I was with Sasser few days after we drafted him. Love the addition!
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Post#49 » by Rip32 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:13 pm

Cowology wrote:Sooo...Sasser can beat up on a buncha scrubs, but plays like trash against even ends of the bench NBA players. Got it.

If he keeps this up he can be the new Bey; 3 terrible games followed by an All-Star caliber performance. Smh

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Post#50 » by Billl » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:50 pm

There is just no pleasing some people. If a guy plays poorly in SL, it's "This guy can't even play against scrubs". If he dominates a SL game, it's "Sure, he can beat up on scrubs, but that doesn't matter."

When your young guys look good in SL, it's a good thing. It's not a guarantee of success, but it's a good sign. Sasser showed off some NBA range , which is what we were mostly hoping for.
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Post#51 » by Snakebites » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:55 pm

Summer league is pretty useless as a genuine means of evaluating a player. It can be a nice chance to get a first look at at players skill set but there’s too many extenuating circumstances to draw meaningful conclusions- small sample size, limited practice time with unfamiliar players, etc.

My guess is Cow probably wasn’t a Sasser fan BEFORE the SL.
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Post#52 » by breezypeezy » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:03 pm

Killian still couldnt score 40 against that competition.
Ausser and Sasser are both complimenting depth for the rotation we have and make Killian expendable or at the least we use him (Killian) as a Lindsey Hunter(ish) ball trapping D specialist and he can have no role running Montes offense or 2nd unit.
That alone is upgrade from the last 2 lottery seasons.
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Post#53 » by Piston Pete » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:16 pm

What’s harder to find?


A guard who can play D and hit an occasional shot?

Or

A stretch-4
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Post#54 » by whitehops » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:21 pm

Piston Pete wrote:What’s harder to find?


A guard who can play D and hit an occasional shot?

Or

A stretch-4


definitely a stretch 4, and by that i'm assuming you mean one that can also make plays off the dribble and be a secondary rim protector.
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Post#55 » by tmorgan » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:23 pm

Sasser has some nice dribbles for self-creation.
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Post#56 » by Drwho17 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:55 pm

Piston Pete wrote:
Spider156 wrote:Sasser can guard the point guard that’s what he does. He’s not a point guard.

Positions these days are about what you can guard
not about what you can do.

Sasser is a score first guard, he won’t run an offense unless he has to and that means injuries. Otherwise I don’t see why Ausar doesn’t run the offense off the bench. If Ausar starts, there’s always gonna be a Cade Ivey Ausar or Monte Morris that can run the point guard even when Sasser is playing.


So by your own words - that would make Sasser a PG

Monte Morris or Ausar would be running the point, Sasser is an undersized 2 Guard on offense, he will probably guard the PG on defense depending on the matchups.

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