Buddy Boeheim resigning with Detroit

[Cowology]

If a championship caliber team can afford a roster spot for T. Antetokounmpo we can afford a roster spot for Boeheim. This is fine, guys.

Point taken, but poor example.

The championship calibur team can afford Thanos because it's a prerequisite for keeping it's championship calibur player - his brother - happy & content with the team.

Either way it's a political move and not about talent. That "spot" is largely irrelevant and so can be re-purposed to each teams individual needs. Sometimes you'll see somebody picked up because they have the same agent as your star player. Or some scouting/recruiting connection at the collegiate or semi-pro level.

Some teams may want to use it for another development project, but we have a whole thread dedicated to our need to consolidate. Do we really want another prospect?

Get yourself a good practice player who you hope will never have to suit up for you. Look at character. At this point we're largely looking for attributes beyond skill/talent/ability.

[Crymson]

If a championship caliber team can afford a roster spot for T. Antetokounmpo we can afford a roster spot for Boeheim. This is fine, guys.

The Bucks signed Thanasis in large part because his brother is the franchise player. Boeheim doesn't even have anything like that to offer.

And he doesn't have a roster spot. He's on a non-guaranteed Exhibit 10. He doesn't justify even a two-way deal, and it's as close to 100% certain as can be that he won't make the final 15.

[Pharaoh]

If a championship caliber team can afford a roster spot for T. Antetokounmpo we can afford a roster spot for Boeheim. This is fine, guys.

The Bucks signed Thanasis in large part because his brother is the franchise player. Boeheim doesn't even have anything like that to offer.

And he doesn't have a roster spot. He's on a non-guaranteed Exhibit 10. He doesn't justify even a two-way deal, and it's as close to 100% certain as can be that he won't make the final 15.

If it's almost certain he won't make the final 15 then what's the issue with bringing him to camp?

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[Crymson]

If it's almost certain he won't make the final 15 then what's the issue with bringing him to camp?

There is no issue. I think what you're seeing is a manifestation of annoyance that he held down a two-way spot for the entirety of last season for absolutely no reason. It's rare that a two-way player becomes an NBA rotation player, but it has happened, and the Pistons wasted 50% of their two-way allocation last season on an individual who has not even the slightest hope of becoming an NBA player. That didn't make sense. I think people just want done with Boeheim as a result.

[kptn]

... the Pistons wasted 50% of their two-way allocation last season on an individual who has not even the slightest hope of becoming an NBA player. That didn't make sense. I think people just want done with Boeheim as a result.

Exactly this. I could not have said it any better.

Take a look around how other teams use their unguaranteed contracts:
Brooklyn: https://www.netsdaily.com/.../nets-sign-trendon-watford...
Miami: https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/.../drew-peterson-is.../
Lakers: https://www.nba.com/.../los-angeles-lakers-sign-alex...
Toronto: https://hoopshype.com/.../javon-freeman-liberty-signs.../
Memphis had Kenneth Lofton on a 2-way last year, who seems to be worth bringing him back.

Don't get me wrong. All of those are long shots. However, bringing Buddy back is a barrel burst instead of any shot.
We are probably not going to find an All Star among those guys. But if we take enough swings we may find this cores "Udonis Haslem".

[Pharaoh]

I get that camp invites and 2 way deals should be swings that MIGHT produce a reasonable player but:

How many of those guys look at our roster and just see no path toward any legit playing time at all?

Those guys are trying to make a career - which means going to a situation that has some kind of path to a real roster spot.

That's not happening here atm

Maybe next off-season we get some reasonable 2 way dudes and camp invites depending on what we do with all our expirings but looking at the roster right now there's just no chance for a dude who wants to a legit shot.

Duren - Wiseman
Bojan - Stewart - Bagley
Ausar - Harris - Livers
Ivey - Burks - Sasser
Cade - Morris - Hayes

I wanted to keep Eugene but he's now in Washington on a 2 way so

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[kptn]

Pistons are still an NBA Team, so even with a roster logjam there are talented guys out there that would easily take that camp invite.
Heck, bring in any starter of this years final 8 TBT-rosters to camp instead and I am fine with it.

When single, I'd rather invite any cute ramdom girl I don't know yet to a party, than seeing my toxic ex-girlfriend there after we could not make it work on several tries. Buddy and the Pistons had exactly that on-off relationshsip, where everyone could see that it will never ever work (except for the couple). It is really time to move on here, before him being around just for the sake of his name spoils the mood and motivation for others.

Usually it is always better to swing and miss, than to strike out looking. This is one of the rare cases i really prefer the latter.

[Crymson]

I get that camp invites and 2 way deals should be swings that MIGHT produce a reasonable player but:

How many of those guys look at our roster and just see no path toward any legit playing time at all?

Those guys are trying to make a career - which means going to a situation that has some kind of path to a real roster spot.

The average player who's trying to make it into the NBA but doesn't have the juice to get a standard NBA deal will absolutely and without hesitation jump at the chance to sign a two-way deal with an NBA team, no matter which team it might be. Contracts of any sort with an NBA organization are extremely scarce, and the vast majority of very good basketball players in the world will never even sniff an NBA roster. For guy who are beyond the fringes, the opportunity to get one's foot in the NBA door by way of a two-way contract is a tremendous opportunity.

Those are guys trying to make a career, and getting into the NBA is the first step.

I also have not even the slightest doubt that, whatever the case may be, the Pistons can find guys with much higher upside than Buddy Boeheim.

[chrbal]

I get that camp invites and 2 way deals should be swings that MIGHT produce a reasonable player but:

How many of those guys look at our roster and just see no path toward any legit playing time at all?

Those guys are trying to make a career - which means going to a situation that has some kind of path to a real roster spot.

That's not happening here atm

Two way contract this season $559,782 based on what I found. A standard g league contract is nothing compared to that. Like a small fraction.

Plus there’s exposure involved based on how they’re utilized now.

We could (and should) easily get a better player then Budd for the third two way. And I get having too many young players, but then utilize the fact that you can have them get playing time in the g league. Don’t waste a roster spot so a co workers kid can sit court side and occasionally show up in games