#4 - Pistons-Mavs

[bstein14]

Watched half of this one... Ausar with some rookie mistakes and "loose handles" on a few plays but his aggression stood out once again. Aggressive on defense and aggressive going after rebounds.

It'll be really interesting to see how our first three games look.
Wed 25th @ Miami
Fri 27th @ Charlotte
Sat 28th vs Chicago

We get to start the season of with 3 games in 4 nights including travel between each game. Not the easiest start to an NBA season for sure. Then we have one day off and immediately have and 3 games in 4 nights with travel in between each game once again.

Mon Oct 30th @ OKC
Wed Nov 1st vs Portland
Thur Nov 2nd @ New Orleans

[keepitrealhomes]

Watched half of this one... Ausar with some rookie mistakes and "loose handles" on a few plays but his aggression stood out once again. Aggressive on defense and aggressive going after rebounds.

It'll be really interesting to see how our first three games look.
Wed 25th @ Miami
Fri 27th @ Charlotte
Sat 28th vs Chicago

We get to start the season of with 3 games in 4 nights including travel between each game. Not the easiest start to an NBA season for sure. Then we have one day off and immediately have and 3 games in 4 nights with travel in between each game once again.

Mon Oct 30th @ OKC
Wed Nov 1st vs Portland
Thur Nov 2nd @ New Orleans

I’m never one to complain about scheduling, or better yet, use it as an excuse, but we notoriously have the most hap-hazard schedule in the league, I swear

[NYPiston]

Nothing like pooping our pants in public right before the season starts. Hopefully we got it out of our system.

It's a bad team, lets just call a spade a spade.

I know you can't put much stock into preseason but it's just more of the same from last season. Can't shoot and can't defend, group looks disjointed. They need Cade to be great to make any significant jump and, hopefully he's just pacing himself, but he looks pedestrian in preseason from the parts I saw.

As far as Ivey is concerned, I'm not sure where he fits and I have a feeling that Monty feels the same. Hopefully some of this gets fleshed out when the real games begin but my gut feeling is that we're in for another long season.

[joedumars1]

Nothing like pooping our pants in public right before the season starts. Hopefully we got it out of our system.

It's a bad team, lets just call a spade a spade.

I know you can't put much stock into preseason but it's just more of the same from last season. Can't shoot and can't defend, group looks disjointed. They need Cade to be great to make any significant jump and, hopefully he's just pacing himself, but he looks pedestrian in preseason from the parts I saw.

As far as Ivey is concerned, I'm not sure where he fits and I have a feeling that Monty feels the same. Hopefully some of this gets fleshed out when the real games begin but my gut feeling is that we're in for another long season.

Yes it’s weird cause it does seem same team same ****, that’s why I wondered about Monty hiring, he and Casey try to run same offense I read? Monty might’ve just came for $, it’s to early for all that, but things I take a note on that maybe. Let’s just hope somehow they play some promising basketball. I wouldn’t mind another top pick, but the players and owner probably will mind. I’m sick of not seeing a direction toward improvement

[MortSahlfan]

Nothing like pooping our pants in public right before the season starts. Hopefully we got it out of our system.

It's a bad team, lets just call a spade a spade.

I know you can't put much stock into preseason but it's just more of the same from last season. Can't shoot and can't defend, group looks disjointed. They need Cade to be great to make any significant jump and, hopefully he's just pacing himself, but he looks pedestrian in preseason from the parts I saw.

As far as Ivey is concerned, I'm not sure where he fits and I have a feeling that Monty feels the same. Hopefully some of this gets fleshed out when the real games begin but my gut feeling is that we're in for another long season.

Yes it’s weird cause it does seem same team same ****, that’s why I wondered about Monty hiring, he and Casey try to run same offense I read? Monty might’ve just came for $, it’s to early for all that, but things I take a note on that maybe. Let’s just hope somehow they play some promising basketball. I wouldn’t mind another top pick, but the players and owner probably will mind. I’m sick of not seeing a direction toward improvement

I hope Monty stresses his so-called .5 second offense. Guys hold the ball way too long and way too much.

[MortSahlfan]

I wish the sound engineer would fix the audio issues. They had this problem earlier, too, where it's a low volume of squealing, high frequency. It sounds like my theramin on a very low volume. All the other channels on Comcast sound fine.

[kpt]

Out of all the rosters we have had in the last several decades this one puzzles me the most. There is talent yet huge logjams at skillset and voids at other needs. I really like Ivey and the story with him yet he doesn't fit right now. I love Cade yet I am doubting his superstardom. I love Duren yet does he fit with todays game? I Love Auser yet will his range limit him too much on offense. I see the need and role for Burks, Harris, and Bogdanovic yet do they still have their range and can we hide their lack of defense? I like Hayes and believe he is actually a "Monte" player yet he needs a huge step forward in skillset and confidence. Sasser, Livers, and M Morris, Bagley, and Stewart are all solid depth pieces yet will Monte put too much responsibility and give them too much PT?

[joedumars1]

Out of all the rosters we have had in the last several decades this one puzzles me the most. There is talent yet huge logjams at skillset and voids at other needs. I really like Ivey and the story with him yet he doesn't fit right now. I love Cade yet I am doubting his superstardom. I love Duren yet does he fit with todays game? I Love Auser yet will his range limit him too much on offense. I see the need and role for Burks, Harris, and Bogdanovic yet do they still have their range and can we hide their lack of defense? I like Hayes and believe he is actually a "Monte" player yet he needs a huge step forward in skillset and confidence. Sasser, Livers, and M Morris, Bagley, and Stewart are all solid depth pieces yet will Monte put too much responsibility and give them too much PT?

lmfao, just buckle up!

[keepitrealhomes]

Out of all the rosters we have had in the last several decades this one puzzles me the most. There is talent yet huge logjams at skillset and voids at other needs. I really like Ivey and the story with him yet he doesn't fit right now. I love Cade yet I am doubting his superstardom. I love Duren yet does he fit with todays game? I Love Auser yet will his range limit him too much on offense. I see the need and role for Burks, Harris, and Bogdanovic yet do they still have their range and can we hide their lack of defense? I like Hayes and believe he is actually a "Monte" player yet he needs a huge step forward in skillset and confidence. Sasser, Livers, and M Morris, Bagley, and Stewart are all solid depth pieces yet will Monte put too much responsibility and give them too much PT?

SVG won 44 games with a somewhat balanced roster around a young andre drummond. It really matters that everyone buys into what monte is preaching.

[GreekAlex]

Out of all the rosters we have had in the last several decades this one puzzles me the most. There is talent yet huge logjams at skillset and voids at other needs. I really like Ivey and the story with him yet he doesn't fit right now. I love Cade yet I am doubting his superstardom. I love Duren yet does he fit with todays game? I Love Auser yet will his range limit him too much on offense. I see the need and role for Burks, Harris, and Bogdanovic yet do they still have their range and can we hide their lack of defense? I like Hayes and believe he is actually a "Monte" player yet he needs a huge step forward in skillset and confidence. Sasser, Livers, and M Morris, Bagley, and Stewart are all solid depth pieces yet will Monte put too much responsibility and give them too much PT?

This shouldn’t be terribly surprising.

The organization has just been collecting talent, drafting BPA and generally focusing on upside.

Now is the time to let Monty coach and evaluate who’s receptive to his coaching. Once the organization determines who can level up, then is the time to focus on a more balanced roster.

I can see Weaver going after P-Will for spacing and as a better fit at the 4. Troy’s liked him since the draft and hopefully the Bulls keep his value suppressed by having him as a 4/5th option on offense.

[Kalamazoo317]

The Ringer had a good interview with a front office person on the Denver Nuggets that talked about the value in compiling complementary skillsets rather than overlapping skillsets. Roster assembly is an art, not just a collection of talent. Can't say as I'm impressed by where we've gotten during the Weaver reign to this point.

[Spider156]

Everyone’s criticism of Weaver’s roster not fitting is fair and warranted. The roster doesn’t fit no I agree with everyone as well. Few things, it’s not Ivey, It’s Stewart first, he’s not a PF which makes Bagley and Wiseman not fit since they are playing his position which should be the backup center. Our shooters can’t defend, we have too many ball handlers that can’t shoot between Cade Ivey Killian Ausar, they all need to step it up shooting the all or we’ll definitely not improve. The glaring hole I see is Stewart at PF. END the experiment ASAP and stop the bleeding before it begins. I DONT believe in Stewart’s shooting and neither should you or he or Monty.

[joedumars1]

Everyone’s criticism of Weaver’s roster not fitting is fair and warranted. The roster doesn’t fit no I agree with everyone as well. Few things, it’s not Ivey, It’s Stewart first, he’s not a PF which makes Bagley and Wiseman not fit since they are playing his position which should be the backup center. Our shooters can’t defend, we have too many ball handlers that can’t shoot between Cade Ivey Killian Ausar, they all need to step it up shooting the all or we’ll definitely not improve. The glaring hole I see is Stewart at PF. END the experiment ASAP and stop the bleeding before it begins. I DONT believe in Stewart’s shooting and neither should you or he or Monty.

to get that pf we do? Trade Ivey is best solution, other is tank and hope to draft one? Trading Ivey for one if we could get a stud would be nice, but i doubt Ivey could do that. So we stuck with stew lmfao

[Moses ShamMoses]

Yeah I've also not been impressed with Weaver either. At some point the acquisitions and roster moves need to pan out and translate to wins. We were the worst team last year and it doesn't appear we've improved all that much on paper either. Unless Cade turns into an all-NBA star out of the blue I think were a bottom 5-10 team again.

[bstein14]

Yeah I've also not been impressed with Weaver either. At some point the acquisitions and roster moves need to pan out and translate to wins. We were the worst team last year and it doesn't appear we've improved all that much on paper either. Unless Cade turns into an all-NBA star out of the blue I think were a bottom 5-10 team again.

We could win 33 games and have a great year and still be a bottom five team.... last year Portland won 33 games and had the fifth worst record in the league. I don't think there's any chance we're not a bottom 5 team even though I predicted 30-32 wins because much of the league is better/balanced and the play-in games really do prevent too many teams from tanking.

[dbuch238]

Stanley Umude was not waived, and he is still on an Exhibit 10 contract. Will he get the last 2-way slot, or is he taking the 15th roster spot?

[Spider156]

Everyone’s criticism of Weaver’s roster not fitting is fair and warranted. The roster doesn’t fit no I agree with everyone as well. Few things, it’s not Ivey, It’s Stewart first, he’s not a PF which makes Bagley and Wiseman not fit since they are playing his position which should be the backup center. Our shooters can’t defend, we have too many ball handlers that can’t shoot between Cade Ivey Killian Ausar, they all need to step it up shooting the all or we’ll definitely not improve. The glaring hole I see is Stewart at PF. END the experiment ASAP and stop the bleeding before it begins. I DONT believe in Stewart’s shooting and neither should you or he or Monty.

to get that pf we do? Trade Ivey is best solution, other is tank and hope to draft one? Trading Ivey for one if we could get a stud would be nice, but i doubt Ivey could do that. So we stuck with stew lmfao

I don’t think so. Weaver has to be creative. A guy like Olynyk is basically who we need at PF so he’s gotten that guy before. Guys like Ilyasova are underrated, that’s like Watanubi. To be honest we really need Livers but I see the issue is a logjam at center and guard. He did a good job with Ausar, we need another. Guy like Marcus morris. They’re not hard to get.