OPENING NIGHT! Pistons @ Heat 730pm

[MortSahlfan]

Monty Williams said he heard Gregg Popovich talk about managing Wemby’s workload, which made him consider doing the same for Ausar Thompson: “We don’t want to crowd his mind. We think he’s going to be an elite defender in this league and that’s not a word that I use a lot.”

Monty Williams called Marcus Sasser an “old wallet.” Called him tough. Said after watching the film, he wishes he got him more minutes.


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[Pistonrings]

Ivey is clueless and don't try on defense and he is not that good on offense.

I get that. What is Killian good at though?

This is in jest. Was just wondering. Good luck this season!

Killian is good at defense (on and off ball), creating turnovers, taking care of the ball (not turning it over), connective playmaking, and generally playing team basketball.

Ivey usually shoots better than Killian and can drive to the hoop, but struggles in pretty much all of those areas where Killian succeeds.

Makes much more sense to play Ivey when Cade is on the bench since taking the ball out of Cade's hands in favor of Ivey is a significant downgrade. And that doesn't even account for the major defensive downgrade.

I agree. Killian and Beef Stew were both plus 18 in that 4th quarter. Their D was awesome. Herro was 0-4 and Butler was 1-5 in the 4th. Both were guarded mainly by Killian and Stew. Cade was the next closest in the 4th at plus 12. But Killian Stew, and Cade are the main reasons we were in that game at the end.

I like Monte's strategy, start your best defensive unit against the opponents starters and then hope your high scoring bench can gut punch their bench.
That defensive starting unit will be able to hang close to many starting units.

[Kalamazoo317]

The wild thing about Ivey is his plusses are based on physical skills and his minuses are mostly mental and playstyle … as a coach’s kid. Was he coached or coddled? Even Austin Rivers played defense.

[bjones521]

Stew's defender was constantly on Cade, he was left open several times, most of the good things he did on offense was near the basket. He is a disaster as a PF. His issues as a PF are not only his 3 point shot, which was good this game. He have bad hands, bad decisions on the perimeter, not fast, can't jump, etc etc etc. He is a center, a flawed but decent one, he is not a PF.

Like I said, Sasser can score, but that's about it. He would have 3 more points, but Bagley did a dumb offensive foul while he was shooting and hitting a 3. He was fine. He can'd do **** on defense, but even on defense he is better than Ivey.

Just rewatched all 27 of Cade's FGA's and most all the night Love stuck with Stew..... really only helped on Cade on Cade's last FGA when we were down one and in reality Cade should/could have passed that one out to an open teammate.

If we get similar numbers, production, effort every night from Stew as what we got from him tonight we're in good shape if he's a solid defense, good shooting 15 and 12 type guy. He also seemingly is building more and more chemistry with Cade and Duren and all three of those guys (19, 22, 22) are going to have multiple years to keep building on their games together.

Just got to sustain that effort for most of a long grueling season and we'll be fine.

Watch this video and you'll see I am correct. Love was constantly clogging the paint and helping on Cade and ignoring Stew

Watch on YouTube

This videos really makes me sad for Cade. He played 1 on 5 most game except when Burks was in.

[vege]

Just rewatched all 27 of Cade's FGA's and most all the night Love stuck with Stew..... really only helped on Cade on Cade's last FGA when we were down one and in reality Cade should/could have passed that one out to an open teammate.

If we get similar numbers, production, effort every night from Stew as what we got from him tonight we're in good shape if he's a solid defense, good shooting 15 and 12 type guy. He also seemingly is building more and more chemistry with Cade and Duren and all three of those guys (19, 22, 22) are going to have multiple years to keep building on their games together.

Just got to sustain that effort for most of a long grueling season and we'll be fine.

Watch this video and you'll see I am correct. Love was constantly clogging the paint and helping on Cade and ignoring Stew

Watch on YouTube

This videos really makes me sad for Cade. He played 1 on 5 most game except when Burks was in.

It's been like that his entire young career. Playing with dysfunctional lineups. At least this time, our defense was really good.

Monte Morris and Bojan Bogdanovic are going to make a huge difference.

[Kalamazoo317]

We could’ve shot better around hm but we offensive rebounded well, moved the ball well, and all the other starters (even Kill) did make some plays on offense.
For straight up offense, though, Bagley was probably our second best player.

[7r5ur]

That’s makes sense, I really hope and wish Ivey does improve on that end, because if he does he will really help our team and we don’t have to go looks for other players outside of the organization for our 2-3 option. Cause I’ve can be that guy I think

Kobe Bryant? Michael Jordan? Jalen Green is an awful player and doesn't help his team to win, because of how dumb he is, Memphis has always done fine without Ja. This new generation need to get better or athletic guards are going to be 6th men and guys like Quentin Grimes, KCP, Bruce Brown who are very limited in terms or talent are going to start over them and help their team's to win.

This is why we should have take Mathurin! The guy is a scorer with all-around game. ivey is streaky ala jerry stackhouse. he is a turnover machine as well. i hated the pick. his numbers only looked good because casey was a shetty coach

Mathurin is as bad on D as Jaden, is a worse 3-point shooter (wayyyy more streaky), and is basically a blackhole on offense, whereas Jaden is a solid secondary playmaker. I really don't see the obsession some of y'all have. Grass is always greener type of thing.

The only guy after that you could say is definitively better than Ivey behind him is probably Jalen Williams, and no one was taking him that high on draft night.

[joedumars1]

Only guy I wanted over jaden was Keegan but he was drafted beofre him. I see why people love jaden, he can be special, I hope he is, today was a good day for him, just sucks wasn’t cade and him on court cause cade had foul trouble. Long season, pray for health

[bstein14]

Ivey still has an insane upside... him starting this season off the bench doesn't change anything. You just hope he has the mental fortitude to roll with his roll and keep working hard and getting better.