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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#61 » by Snakebites » Sat Dec 2, 2023 5:37 am

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bstein14 wrote:
I really like a lot of what we've seen from Thompson, but Duren and Thompson both being non shooters might mean we struggle with spacing if they are both on the floor together a bunch. Ideally we should have 8 rotation players that can shoot 34+% from deep and only two that can't.... and those two shouldn't be on the floor much together one can start and one should be a bench guy.

Right now:
Cade 34.2%
Stew 38.2%
Thompson 14.3% <<NON Shooter>>
Duren 0.0% << NON Shooter>>
Hayes 30.8%
(He's getting better and could eventually be within striking distance of 34%)
Livers 34.6%
Ivey 37.0%
Knox 42.9%
Burks 36.6%
Bagley 20.0% <<NON Shooter>>
Sasser 40.9%
Wiseman 0.0% << NON Shooter>>
Umude 51.9%


Stewart had a hot start but he's back to his career 32% over the last 11 games. And that's 32% on wide open 3's.

OK, but if you subtract his 1/7 performance against Washington a few games ago, he's shooting:
Last 11 games: 36.5%
Last 2 Weeks: 37%
Season: 40.5%


We don't get to pick and choose statistics to support a certain narrative. Stewart has shot decently well overall on the season, but the numbers are, for the moment, in decline. That 1-7 game is part of his statistical output whether we want it to be or not- it's something he really did.

And he's really not spreading the floor with those shots regardless of where you place him as a shooter, which is the far more pressing issue. They're giving him plenty of space to shoot his 38% because they know he can't cause much damage with it. You only need to go out and guard them if you're afraid they'll hit more if you leave them alone. Defenses know he's only good for 1-2 threes per game when nobody is looking in his general direction, and they'll happily give those up to collapse on the pick and roll.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#62 » by TPA » Sat Dec 2, 2023 6:04 am

Snakebites wrote:
TPA wrote:
vege wrote:
Stewart had a hot start but he's back to his career 32% over the last 11 games. And that's 32% on wide open 3's.

OK, but if you subtract his 1/7 performance against Washington a few games ago, he's shooting:
Last 11 games: 36.5%
Last 2 Weeks: 37%
Season: 40.5%


We don't get to pick and choose statistics to support a certain narrative. Stewart has shot decently well overall on the season, but the numbers are, for the moment, in decline. That 1-7 game is part of his statistical output whether we want it to be or not- it's something he really did.

And he's really not spreading the floor with those shots regardless of where you place him as a shooter, which is the far more pressing issue. They're giving him plenty of space to shoot his 38% because they know he can't cause much damage with it. You only need to go out and guard them if you're afraid they'll hit more if you leave them alone. Defenses know he's only good for 1-2 threes per game when nobody is looking in his general direction, and they'll happily give those up to collapse on the pick and roll.


Yes, 38% is "decently well" on the season (including his 1/7 performance vs Washington). I don't understand what you mean by "They're giving him plenty of space to shoot his 38% because they know he can't cause much damage with it". He IS knocking them down at a 38% clip and he's shooting 4 3's per game... If defenses are happy to give them up in space (while our roster is in disarray) it seems like a bad bet for opposing teams to continue leaving him open once we figure out a better offensive scheme...
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#63 » by Mr Peanut » Sat Dec 2, 2023 6:59 am

Overall, Stewart's 3 point shooting numbers for the season are respectable. The issue is that teams are still sagging off him to pack the paint and just accepting the fact that they will give up on average 1.5 threes a game, but that's fine when it means they get to completely nullify Cade's offense and stop other players from driving to the rim for easy points.

The only way to fix this is for Stewart to shoot a higher volume of threes to make them pay for not defending him, but naturally his overall percentage will probably drop when shooting more (and if he's being more closely guarded).

Bojan in the starting lineup will help a lot with his 6 attempts a game at 41% as defenders know they'll have to commit someone to him on the perimeter which will open up the paint a bit.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#64 » by bjones521 » Sat Dec 2, 2023 7:42 am

Mr Peanut wrote:Overall, Stewart's 3 point shooting numbers for the season are respectable. The issue is that teams are still sagging off him to pack the paint and just accepting the fact that they will give up on average 1.5 threes a game, but that's fine when it means they get to completely nullify Cade's offense and stop other players from driving to the rim for easy points.

The only way to fix this is for Stewart to shoot a higher volume of threes to make them pay for not defending him, but naturally his overall percentage will probably drop when shooting more (and if he's being more closely guarded).

Bojan in the starting lineup will help a lot with his 6 attempts a game at 41% as defenders know they'll have to commit someone to him on the perimeter which will open up the paint a bit.


Stewards numbers would be acceptable if he took contested threes or off the dribble shots. All his shots are wide open. He should be shooting a much better percentage. Teams will only respect him if he shoots above 40% because he's left wide open.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#65 » by bstein14 » Sat Dec 2, 2023 2:19 pm

Wide Open 6+ feet to nearest defender 3 point shots:
Cade 41.9% (3.9 attempts per game)
Killian 31.4% (1.9 attempts per game)
Stew 34.0% (2.5 attempts per game)

Open 4-6 feet to nearest defender 3 point shots:
Cade 20.0% (1.8 attempts per game)
Killian 29.4% (0.9 attempts per game)
Stew 45.8% (1.3 attempts per game)

Contested 2-4 feet to nearest defender 3 point shots:
Cade 20.0% (0.3 attempts per game) 1-5 on season
Killian 0.00 (0.0 attempts per game) 0-0 on season
Stew 100.0% (0.1 attempts per game) 1-1 on season
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Stew shooting a very solid/respectable 45.8% on threes when a defender is within 4-6 feet. No one on the team really shoots many threes at all when the defender is within 2-4 feet. Cade is the player who is living on wide open threes at 41.9% and awful when anyone is somewhat close (just 20%). Not sure where the idea that Stew only takes/makes wide open threes comes from.

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