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10 wins 

Post#1 » by kreton » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:05 am

Does anyone think we'll hit 10 wins this year? It almost feels like a trolling question but honestly who can we beat? If this Grizzlies team beats us by double digits, and the **** ass Wizards blew us up. Who can beat? Who can we beat 8 times?

I believe the NBA worst record is 9 wins. We might not get it.

And as I type this Duren goes down. FML.
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Post#2 » by vege » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:07 am

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Post#3 » by kreton » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:08 am

I think this might go down as the worst team in NBA history if the Pistons don't make some real moves.
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Post#4 » by bstein14 » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:13 am

We might need to make some "win now" moves to hit 20, but I think we easily clear 10 wins this year. Probably a 14-15 win team.
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Post#5 » by joedumars1 » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:21 am

yeah maybe the worst team in nba shouldn’t get the 5th overall pick. Lmfao. Be ready for it again, tho since it’s not a unanimous #1 we might get the 1st. Idk what will help. A better coach maybe. Udoka got grabbed tho, ethics be damned
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Post#6 » by chrbal » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:27 am

12-15 wins total. The eventual media attention of the pathetic Pistons at least forces Gores to get off the can and do something
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Post#7 » by TurboTitan » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:29 am

just looked at our december schedule. We probably wont win a game until 2024
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Post#8 » by theBigLip » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:34 am

Yikes.

Well at least we seem to excel at tanking. Too bad it’s a **** draft this year.
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Post#9 » by JLiv » Thu Dec 7, 2023 2:47 am

We were 2-1 now we 2-19 lol. I can’t even be disappointed anymore. Worst team of all time potential.

This might be a case of Region Beta Paradox. Being this trash might actually make what needs to happen for us to be good happen quicker. Whether that’s the league stepping in, them pulling the trigger on some trade, or Gores selling.
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Post#10 » by gusman » Thu Dec 7, 2023 3:03 am

JLiv wrote:We were 2-1 now we 2-19 lol. I can’t even be disappointed anymore. Worst team of all time potential.

This might be a case of Region Beta Paradox. Being this trash might actually make what needs to happen for us to be good happen quicker. Whether that’s the league stepping in, them pulling the trigger on some trade, or Gores selling.



Region beta paradox. Impressive. Learned something new today!
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Post#11 » by kreton » Thu Dec 7, 2023 3:50 am

TurboTitan wrote:just looked at our december schedule. We probably wont win a game until 2024


When we play San Antonio we could be 2-35. That is Jan 10. That might our next game we might be favored in. Maybe.
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Post#12 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu Dec 7, 2023 4:48 am

I don't feel the talent level on this team is as historically bad as some of the otherteams who have had historically bad years in my lifetime. Here are the worst teams and their top 8 players in minutes (age):
2012 Charlotte Bobcats (7-59): Gerald Henderson (24), Kemba Walker (21), Byron Mullens (22), Bismack Biyombo (19), Derrick Brown (24), D.J. Augustin (24), D.J. White (25), Boris Diaw (29)

2016 Philadelphia 76ers (10-72): Hollis Thompson (24), Jerami Grant (21), Isaiah Canaan (24), Nerlens Noel (21), Robert Covington (25), Nik Stauskas (22), Ish Smith (27), T.J. McConnell (23)

1993 Dallas Mavericks (11-71): Terry Davis (25), Derek Harper (31), Sean Rooks (23), Mike Iuzzolino (25), Walter Bond (23), Doug Smith (23), Randy White (25), Brian Howard (25)

1998 Denver Nuggets (11-71): Dean Garrett (31), LaPhonso Ellis (27), Anthony Goldwire (26), Johnny Newman (34), Bobby Jackson (24), Danny Fortson (21), Eric Washington (23), Tony Battle (21)

2010 New Jersey Nets (12-70): Brook Lopez (21), Courtney Lee (24), Devin Harris (26), Terrence Williams (22), Chris Douglas-Roberts (23), Yi Jianlian (22), Trenton Hassell (30), Josh Boone (25)

Currently, out top 8 players in minutes are:
Cade Cunningham (22), Isaiah Stewart (22), Ausar Thompson (21), Killian Hayes (22), Jalen Duren (20), Marcus Sasser (23), Jaden Ivey (21), Marvin Bagley III (24).

We're definitely younger than the historically bad teams, but I do think there is more potential talent too. A combination of the youth and Bojan entering our top minutes leaders should be enough to not be mentioned in the same breath as these teams.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're the youngest team in history given the average age of the average minute played.
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Post#13 » by ComboGuardCity » Thu Dec 7, 2023 5:57 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:I don't feel the talent level on this team is as historically bad as some of the otherteams who have had historically bad years in my lifetime. Here are the worst teams and their top 8 players in minutes (age):
2012 Charlotte Bobcats (7-59): Gerald Henderson (24), Kemba Walker (21), Byron Mullens (22), Bismack Biyombo (19), Derrick Brown (24), D.J. Augustin (24), D.J. White (25), Boris Diaw (29)

2016 Philadelphia 76ers (10-72): Hollis Thompson (24), Jerami Grant (21), Isaiah Canaan (24), Nerlens Noel (21), Robert Covington (25), Nik Stauskas (22), Ish Smith (27), T.J. McConnell (23)

1993 Dallas Mavericks (11-71): Terry Davis (25), Derek Harper (31), Sean Rooks (23), Mike Iuzzolino (25), Walter Bond (23), Doug Smith (23), Randy White (25), Brian Howard (25)

1998 Denver Nuggets (11-71): Dean Garrett (31), LaPhonso Ellis (27), Anthony Goldwire (26), Johnny Newman (34), Bobby Jackson (24), Danny Fortson (21), Eric Washington (23), Tony Battle (21)

2010 New Jersey Nets (12-70): Brook Lopez (21), Courtney Lee (24), Devin Harris (26), Terrence Williams (22), Chris Douglas-Roberts (23), Yi Jianlian (22), Trenton Hassell (30), Josh Boone (25)

Currently, out top 8 players in minutes are:
Cade Cunningham (22), Isaiah Stewart (22), Ausar Thompson (21), Killian Hayes (22), Jalen Duren (20), Marcus Sasser (23), Jaden Ivey (21), Marvin Bagley III (24).

We're definitely younger than the historically bad teams, but I do think there is more potential talent too. A combination of the youth and Bojan entering our top minutes leaders should be enough to not be mentioned in the same breath as these teams.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're the youngest team in history given the average age of the average minute played.


The talent around the league has gotten much better too though.

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Won 25 games the year the bobcats set the record. That team is worse than our current pistons team!
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Post#14 » by Canadafan » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:06 pm

kreton wrote:Does anyone think we'll hit 10 wins this year? It almost feels like a trolling question but honestly who can we beat? If this Grizzlies team beats us by double digits, and the **** ass Wizards blew us up. Who can beat? Who can we beat 8 times?

I believe the NBA worst record is 9 wins. We might not get it.

And as I type this Duren goes down. FML.


Well, on the bright side, we might get a lineup that has more spacing now. Stew Livers Bojan Cade and Ivey or Hayes

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