Game 28: Pistons vs. Jazz 7PM EST

[vege]

Sasser should be starting and playing way more minutes than he's been playing.

Duren
Bojan
Ausar
Cade
Sasser

should be our starting lineup.

With Stew/Knox/Ivey off the bench and nobody else should see the court anymore untill Monte Morris is back.

[vege]

We were horrible last year after the Bey trade, and part of it is 100% spacing and playing multiple bigs and players that can't shoot. CoJo actually was an NBA caliber rotation player. Bey is an NBA caliber rotation player.

Right now, at best, we have two starter caliber guys in Cade and Bojan. We have guys that aren't NBA caliber playing off the bench.

We have several of players on our 15 man roster that won't be in the NBA next year unless we resign them.

I've been pleading for years about adding starter level players to the team. Instead of spending $7.5 million on Hayes, $12.5 million each on Wiseman and Bagley we could have used that $32 million to add a really solid starter, or even two good rotation players that are 5th/6th guys on a good roster. Instead we have trash that doesn't space the floor. Instead of taking on Harris's $20 million contract we could have had a legit NBA player with that money.

Malik Monk signed for $9.5 million per year for two years we could have given him 3 years $30 million and he'd be a Piston. He's averaging 15 PPG and shooting 42% from deep. We could have paid Dillon Brooks, Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown, or Herb Jones this summer. The Pelicans literally couldn't match a 4 year $100 million offer to Herb Jones. He's still young(25) and a top 10 defender in the league and could have been the type of player who could come in and help change the culture of the team.

It's like Weaver is afraid to pull the trigger and commit to anything.

Kelly Oubre signed for the minimum and he would be probably our 3rd best player. Give him 1 year 10 million instead of trade for Joe Harris corpse, and we're not the worst team of all time.

[NYPiston]

More talent doesn't equal to better. This roster is dysfunctional. More than last year. Last year you had a bunch of vets capable of spacing the floor.

No, talent doesn't equate to being better automatically but it also should give a coach more options to work with in terms of matchups, lineups etc. Casey did more with a roster that didn't have their best player last season especially in terms of effort, not only that but every player young and vet has regressed this season. That goes beyond just a roster issue.
I don't care how bad a roster is, you shouldn't be losing 25 in a row especially in today's NBA and losing by double digits in just about every game at that. Monty and his staff have been poison to this team in addition to Weaver and management failing this franchise. It's been a collaborative failure not just a Weaver failure.

Also, and I'm just reading this, lol at Cade saying that they're not 2-26 bad. Uh sorry Cade yes you are. You lost by double digits or close to it to 3 other cellar dwellers with this most recent one to a team sitting arguably their 4 best players. You guys ARE 2-26 bad.

[vege]

More talent doesn't equal to better. This roster is dysfunctional. More than last year. Last year you had a bunch of vets capable of spacing the floor.

No, talent doesn't equate to being better automatically but it also should give a coach more options to work with in terms of matchups, lineups etc. Casey did more with a roster that didn't have their best player last season especially in terms of effort, not only that but every player young and vet has regressed this season. That goes beyond just a roster issue.
I don't care how bad a roster is, you shouldn't be losing 25 in a row especially in today's NBA and losing by double digits in just about every game at that. Monty and his staff have been poison to this team in addition to Weaver and management failing this franchise. It's been a collaborative failure not just a Weaver failure.

Dude, Monty have been bad, but coach is not the issue. The roster and the FO are. Wake up.

[JD43320]

Coaching is a huge issue. The roster is a huge issue. The front office is a huge issue. Ownership is a huge issue. Arguing over which is the biggest issue is like arguing which is the stinkiest turd in the bowl. It's all crap. Wake up.

[hoophabit]

Okay, I've decided it's time to apply my Lions rule to the Pistons and stop watching live games. Record them, and if they win watch later. It's good mental health practice, and there's nothing to be learned by watching this team at the moment. Also saves a lot of wasted time.

[Collymore]

Okay, I've decided it's time to apply my Lions rule to the Pistons and stop watching live games. Record them, and if they win watch later. It's good mental health practice, and there's nothing to be learned by watching this team at the moment. Also saves a lot of wasted time.

The season might be over for you.

[DBC10]

Coaching is a huge issue. The roster is a huge issue. The front office is a huge issue. Ownership is a huge issue. Arguing over which is the biggest issue is like arguing which is the stinkiest turd in the bowl. It's all crap. Wake up.

Yep. We're disastrously bad and thinking that Ivey, Bagley, Harris, Hayes or whoever the hell is one of the primary reasons why this season has gone to hell is just addressing the symptoms not the cause. And really missing the forest for the tree(s)

Nothing will change until we have ownership change, FO overhaul, and even coaching staff changes. Starting from the top and eventually bottom, it cannot stay the same if you are expecting to address root cause, period

[DBC10]

Sounds like he's out-coaching Monty (but hey, he'll take blame for the loss!)

Read on Twitter

This is the only Twitter take that actually matters. The defensive scheme we're running from Monty/Silas is abominable

[breezypeezy]

All the BS weve been shoveled about patience and youth development, its all a farce.

2 and 25 and no changes in sight, all this franchise is molding is loser mentality, its a cancer.

[edmunder_prc]

We were horrible last year after the Bey trade, and part of it is 100% spacing and playing multiple bigs and players that can't shoot. CoJo actually was an NBA caliber rotation player. Bey is an NBA caliber rotation player.

Right now, at best, we have two starter caliber guys in Cade and Bojan. We have guys that aren't NBA caliber playing off the bench.

We have several of players on our 15 man roster that won't be in the NBA next year unless we resign them.

I've been pleading for years about adding starter level players to the team. Instead of spending $7.5 million on Hayes, $12.5 million each on Wiseman and Bagley we could have used that $32 million to add a really solid starter, or even two good rotation players that are 5th/6th guys on a good roster. Instead we have trash that doesn't space the floor. Instead of taking on Harris's $20 million contract we could have had a legit NBA player with that money.

Malik Monk signed for $9.5 million per year for two years we could have given him 3 years $30 million and he'd be a Piston. He's averaging 15 PPG and shooting 42% from deep. We could have paid Dillon Brooks, Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown, or Herb Jones this summer. The Pelicans literally couldn't match a 4 year $100 million offer to Herb Jones. He's still young(25) and a top 10 defender in the league and could have been the type of player who could come in and help change the culture of the team.

It's like Weaver is afraid to pull the trigger and commit to anything.

We've been saying for a while and the entire board was basically yelling how much upside Stewart, Bagley, etc had and they were excellent contracts.

When you look at how much money Hayes, Stewart, Bagley, Wiseman, Joe Harris make, its staggering.

This team deserves every loss. Its built like ****, the FO, the coaches, the players. Its all garbage top to bottom, but its been obvious for a few years and everyone was saying Weaver was a genius. Pistons fans deserve it.

Oh, and its just starting, this will continue for a while. Its so bad that it cant be fixed easily.

EDIT - I do like Cade, Ausar and Duren though, but you need Ray Allen and Durant to round out the roster.

[hoophabit]

Okay, I've decided it's time to apply my Lions rule to the Pistons and stop watching live games. Record them, and if they win watch later. It's good mental health practice, and there's nothing to be learned by watching this team at the moment. Also saves a lot of wasted time.

The season might be over for you.

Oh no, I'll follow them but more detached. Watch highlights, check box scores etc. It's painful to watch this level of ineptitude by my home team.

[FloridaMan78]

More talent doesn't equal to better. This roster is dysfunctional. More than last year. Last year you had a bunch of vets capable of spacing the floor.

No, talent doesn't equate to being better automatically but it also should give a coach more options to work with in terms of matchups, lineups etc. Casey did more with a roster that didn't have their best player last season especially in terms of effort, not only that but every player young and vet has regressed this season. That goes beyond just a roster issue.
I don't care how bad a roster is, you shouldn't be losing 25 in a row especially in today's NBA and losing by double digits in just about every game at that. Monty and his staff have been poison to this team in addition to Weaver and management failing this franchise. It's been a collaborative failure not just a Weaver failure.

Dude, Monty have been bad, but coach is not the issue. The roster and the FO are. Wake up.

I’m not really sure how you watch this team and not see how this team quit on their coach. It’s pretty evident they haven’t bought into the system. Not saying the team is any good. But as Cade said they aren’t 2-26 bad, they’re your normal 17-65 bad lol.

[hoophabit]

Okay, I've decided it's time to apply my Lions rule to the Pistons and stop watching live games. Record them, and if they win watch later. It's good mental health practice, and there's nothing to be learned by watching this team at the moment. Also saves a lot of wasted time.

The season might be over for you.

Took me a bit to get the joke, duh. God, I hope they win more games at some point. 2-80? Guess I'd have to become a Cleveland fan!

[Moses ShamMoses]

The offense went through lulls but the defense was pretty terrible the entire night. Poor defense and the turnovers are losing us games. Not to single anyone out (but I will anyway ) what's the point of playing Stewart? He doesn't offer much offense and he offers no rim protection since he's 6'8. The dude might try hard but he's undersized.

[Canadafan]

The offense went through lulls but the defense was pretty terrible the entire night. Poor defense and the turnovers are losing us games. Not to single anyone out (but I will anyway ) what's the point of playing Stewart? He doesn't offer much offense and he offers no rim protection since he's 6'8. The dude might try hard but he's undersized.

Or at the very least stop playing 2 bigs together every game
We'd be so much better with one of Duren Stew Wiseman or Bagley playing center for us and letting Ausure Bojan Livers Knox Burks get all the minutes at SF/PF jesus lord how is this so difficult for our coach