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Re: Keepers 

Post#61 » by LSV » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:05 am

breezypeezy wrote:GM article mentioned Detroit has announced everyone not named Cade or Jalen D. is on the table for trade talks.

Im OK with that, I mean I Iike Auser, Ivey and even Sasser, but the only two im saying should be "OFF LIMITS" has to be Cade and Duren. The rest you got to at least entertain offers when they are part of a sum that is historically bad.


I agree, Cade and Duren should be permanent fixtures on our roster in the future.
I would like to be able to include Ivey, Ausar and Sasser among them, but I would not be 100% closed to them, as long as a good return is obtained.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#62 » by SuperBad » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:39 pm

Cade and Duran are our first true building blocks, I think Thompson is the other, Ivey I think holds the most value in a trade, I really like him, but and would not like to trade him, unless we’re going to except nothing of relevance in change until the summer I’m guessing he’s the piece that’s gonna be moved.
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Post#63 » by breezypeezy » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:08 am

I think Bojan, Stew, Ivey, and Auser all have some value to somebody.

We get Morris back and contributing at his past level, a lottery pick, use our cap space in free agency and get smart return pieces for Stew, Bojan, Ivey, and perhaps reluctantly Auser, then maybe we can improve this train wreck?

I dont care how bad our record is Weaver better not be moving Ivey and Auser for a big discount, they still have future value and we need to be compensated as such for them.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#64 » by Canadafan » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:57 pm

breezypeezy wrote:I think Bojan, Stew, Ivey, and Auser all have some value to somebody.

We get Morris back and contributing at his past level, a lottery pick, use our cap space in free agency and get smart return pieces for Stew, Bojan, Ivey, and perhaps reluctantly Auser, then maybe we can improve this train wreck?

I dont care how bad our record is Weaver better not be moving Ivey and Auser for a big discount, they still have future value and we need to be compensated as such for them.


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Re: Keepers 

Post#65 » by DBC10 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:39 pm

Ivey's averages in the last 5 games
18.6pts/5.2ast/6.4reb plus 1.2 stls & 1.2blks
47%/30% shooting with 6 FTA

Definitely improvements there

Cade has also been a beast which I won't post since someone already has
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Re: Keepers 

Post#66 » by zeebneeb » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:00 pm

DBC10 wrote:Ivey's averages in the last 5 games
18.6pts/5.2ast/6.4reb plus 1.2 stls & 1.2blks
47%/30% shooting with 6 FTA

Definitely improvements there

Cade has also been a beast which I won't post since someone already has
The starting backcourt of Cade/Ivey has been amazing thr past 5-6 games, and for them to lose all those games is insane.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#67 » by 7r5ur » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:00 pm

DBC10 wrote:Ivey's averages in the last 5 games
18.6pts/5.2ast/6.4reb plus 1.2 stls & 1.2blks
47%/30% shooting with 6 FTA

Definitely improvements there

Cade has also been a beast which I won't post since someone already has

Plus Ivey had a positive +/- in 4 of 5 games and Cade had a positive in 3 of 5 games despite 5 losses. This notion that Ivey and Cade can't play together is solely based on Monty being a dumbass and not playing them together. If they can improve defensive, I feel like the fit is great with Cade methodical pace and Ivey the blur.

Pretty hilarious that all indications point to the front office FORCING Monty to finally play Ivey instead of Killian **** Hayes. Monty didn't even come to this conclusion after a billion losses in a row on his own. The cokehead owner had to tell him to lol. This is where we're at with Monty at this point. Gores would make a better coach.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#68 » by joedumars1 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:11 pm

BDM22 wrote:
DBC10 wrote:Ivey's averages in the last 5 games
18.6pts/5.2ast/6.4reb plus 1.2 stls & 1.2blks
47%/30% shooting with 6 FTA

Definitely improvements there

Cade has also been a beast which I won't post since someone already has

Plus Ivey had a positive +/- in 4 of 5 games and Cade had a positive in 3 of 5 games despite 5 losses. This notion that Ivey and Cade can't play together is solely based on Monty being a dumbass and not playing them together. If they can improve defensive, I feel like the fit is great with Cade methodical pace and Ivey the blur.

Pretty hilarious that all indications point to the front office FORCING Monty to finally play Ivey instead of Killian **** Hayes. Monty didn't even come to this conclusion after a billion losses in a row on his own. The cokehead owner had to tell him to lol. This is where we're at with Monty at this point. Gores would make a better coach.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#69 » by Kilo » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:09 pm

Monty and his wholesale bench unit doesn't have a scorer now. I sorta get why he wanted Ivey off the bench, especially with Morris potentially the starter next to Cade. He just stuck with it too long. Or maybe he was trying to teach Ivey something.

On a side.note JEIII is reporting BB is not being shopped and Pistons want to keep him through next season. Of course thus could all be posturing, and he doesn't day he's untouchable. I would probably keep him.over a.bad draft pick or pupu platter of fringe prospects.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#70 » by smann7 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:33 pm

I’d keep Bojan as well.
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Re: Keepers 

Post#71 » by Kalamazoo317 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:07 am

DBC10 wrote:Ivey's averages in the last 5 games
18.6pts/5.2ast/6.4reb plus 1.2 stls & 1.2blks
47%/30% shooting with 6 FTA

Definitely improvements there

Cade has also been a beast which I won't post since someone already has


Would be nice to see him boost his FT% from 70, but 70 isn't terrible. 2.8 turnovers per game is OK, but his on ball usage still isn't that high, so would like to see that cut down. I've noticed better defensive effort and playmaking from both him and Cade the past two or so games.

Bojan, meanwhile, seems to be ticking up in dumb TOs. I think he might be pressing a bit too hard to try to lead them out of this funk.

Having Duren back has been nice. We looked legitimately good against the Celtics for the most part.

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