Cowology wrote:bstein14 wrote:BDM22 wrote:Philly's situation is very specific though. They have an MVP caliber player, which is always going to be a bargain deal given how max contracts work. OG will probably be making a few million less than Embiid next year while giving like 25% of the impact.
They also have Tyrese Maxey on a very small cap hold relative to the caliber player getting his max deal in the offseason at the same time as they're getting off of Tobias, and a bunch of filler on the roster. For all of that to line up they needed Maxey to become this player that no one saw coming, and have his rookie deal expiring at the exact right moment. And of course they need an MVP.
A lot of stars have to align for something like that. Golden State had it happen largely because of Steph's ankle injury suppressing his value when he signed his extension. Otherwise it's very rare.
100% Philly upset Harden and Harris because they wanted to keep two max salary slots open to add to Embiid + Maxey this summer... because they waited on resigning Maxey he'll have a lower cap hold and then they can go over the cap to max him after they sign two other max guys. Nurse was hired in Philly and I'm 70+% certain that the OG + Siakam duo end up just both signing in Philly to create a big four with Maxey and Embiid.
Isn't that what the 2nd Apron is designed to prevent?
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-second-apron-explained-salary-cap-team-spending/efo6htjzzmzrswoncvvlbmhi
Second Apron will be close to $190 million next year.
The Sixers only have two players under contract.Embiid makes $51.5 in 2024-25
Jaden Springer makes $4.0 million
Maxey Cap hold is $13 million (for being 21st pick)
Projected Salary Cap is low $140s so they will in theory have close to $70 million to spend but they also have to have a certain number of minimum salary place holders. I think its likely they end up moving on from Springer for an expiring contract to even further give themselves the full out maximum amount of money to spend.
After they spend that $70 million in cap space they can then resign Maxey and still be well under the Apron as least starting out.
Embiid $52
Siakam $40 million (actual Max for him would be $42.6 million starting out if cap is $142 million)
OG $30 million (actual Max for him would be $42.6 million starting out if cap is $142 million)
Maxey $35 million
So in reality, they can't give both of them the max... but I still think they both end up in Philly either via S&T or with OG getting a closer to market value instead of a MAX deal... of course some desperate team could step in and give him a MAX deal but that would look something like this:
$42 million in 24-25 (Age 27)
$45 million in 25-26 (Age 28)
$48 million in 26-27 (Age 29)
$51 million in 27-28 (Age 30)
I like OG but that's a steep price to pay, and likely the price we would have to pay as the worst of the worst in the league to get him to come to Detroit.
