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Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons.

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Re: Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons. 

Post#21 » by ComboGuardCity » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:59 pm

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ComboGuardCity wrote:I actually like Gores as an owner. He’s made all the, at the time, right hires.

1. SVG was highly regarded. Most here were ecstatic when we got him.

2. Troy Weaver was supposedly a big reason for Presti’s success.


3. Casey was an above average coach

4. Monty was supposed to be an elite coach.

The problem is, what could go wrong has gone wrong.

1. SVG was a decent coach but didn’t know how to draft. Some say Blake was forced on him, but the Blake years as sad as it is, was probably our best team. He just flat whiffed on Luke over Mitchell and Stanley over Booker.

2. Casey all in did an average job with the talent he had. He didn’t set this franchise back. He just really didn’t have any real talent because Blake got hurt.

3. Weaver drafted an all time bust in Killian and has made some questionable trades. Nothing spectacular but also nothing incredibly awful that it would have a multi year effect. The problem is he bottomed out and we’re still at the bottom.

4. Last year at this time Monty would be a dream. Now, it’s been the worst results imaginable.

All in all, Gores has been willing to spend and I feel like cares about Detroit. He’s made the seemingly right moves but they just haven’t worked out. I'm not unhappy with him as the guy


With all due respect, how can you possibly say this after the utter BS he spewed getting on the fans for being upset because he's good in the community and saying that Williams and Weaver aren't going anywhere?

Hiring SVG as GM wasn't a bad move in hindsight, it was a bad move from the very beginning. I wasn't on RealGM at the time so I don't know what the sentiment was around here but many people voiced concerns about him assuming the GM role.
He also meddled saying how much he valued Drummond so he's off the trade list, meddled with the Blake Griffin move and, heck, just look at the results. 0 playoff wins in 15 years now, no other sports franchise can claim that outside of the Lions lol and the Browns and that's football where playoff wins are fewer and far between.

From a pure basketball perspective, he's been an abject failure as an owner. It's nice that he's willing to spend but when you constantly surround yourself with the wrong people and then you meddle when you start getting impatient (Monty being the most recent example) then YOU are the problem.
I haven't even touched on the Arm Tellem thing but I don't know how much bandwidth I have left to list all the things he's done wrong.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion so I should respect that but I'm shocked that any Pistons fan would be not unhappy with Gores as owner.


Had Tom Gores not bought the Pistons, I firmly believe there was a real chance another owner could have bought the team and moved them. We were in an older arena outside of the city center and the pop of the TV deals had yet to take place.

I’m not saying the guy hasn’t made mistakes, but I don’t blame him for meddling. I would do the same exact thing and so would everyone on RealGM. Think about it, if you had the power to give your opinion and make it count on this franchise, would you? And it’s not even our investment.

Before SVG, we were a mess. You might’ve been concerned, but the vast majority were excited.

And his take on Weaver on Monty? No one is going to step to the microphone and be 100% transparent. What benefit is there? There is a PR component that has to be considered.
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Re: Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons. 

Post#22 » by MrBigShot » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:04 pm

His tenure has been rough and I wish he would get removed, but being removed as an owner is basically unprecedented unless there's some sort of national attention for racism or sexual harassment
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Re: Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons. 

Post#23 » by SuperBad » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:12 am

Draft Bronny, give Lebron some type of ownership Deal, he becomes our starting 4. Quickest way to relevance.
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Post#24 » by Cowology » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:05 am

SuperBad wrote:Draft Bronny, give Lebron some type of ownership Deal, he becomes our starting 4. Quickest way to relevance.
Kinda sad that this might actually be a better plan than anything our actual GM/Owner have come up with. :sigh:
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Post#25 » by kpt » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:06 am

No, I can’t support sinking to that level
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Re: Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons. 

Post#26 » by whitehops » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:30 am

if i remember correctly from sterling's dismissal there has to be a 2/3rds majority vote to remove an owner. having a bad team is definitely not going to warrant that, you pretty much have to do something that really damages the league overall to get that vote. there have been teams and owners (vivek randavive) that have been terrible for a long time and there have been no repercussions.

unless gores is the mastermind behind the vision for the pistons i'd put the majority of the blame on weaver's shoulders.
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Post#27 » by SuperBad » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:54 pm

Lebron would end up running everything for at least 2-3 years
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Re: Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons. 

Post#28 » by thesack12 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:02 pm

Yeah, unless Gores has some currently unknown skeletons in his closet he's not going anywhere.

However, one thing he needs to do is just cut the cord on Monty Williams and bite the bullet in paying him. You are contractually obligated to pay him either way (which is Gores/Weaver's fault.) What's worse paying Monty to go away or paying him to stick around and continue to throw gas on the dumpster fire that is the Detroit Pistons?

The Monty Williams hire was a colossal mistake from a business standpoint, and a terribly short sighted mistake from a basketball standpoint. The Monty Williams mistake should be classified as a business related financial loss and just move on so the basketball side of things doesn't have to keep suffering.
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Post#29 » by ozthegap » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:33 pm

joedumars1 wrote:Yeah man he’s been a **** owner, he just needs to sign the checks and not make personnel (players) decision, but he has over and over.

Funny thing, when we need a move made he sits in his hands, but it’s actually a move that only he can do, it’s not a don’t trade Drummond cause he don’t want to move, it’s a he can fire these guys, but he sits in his hands. He sucks.


If you were able to spend billions of dollars to buy an NBA team, you wouldn’t decide to play GM for a decade or so no matter what anyone said? I know if it were me and I spent billions on a new toy I’m playing with it
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Post#30 » by joedumars1 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:36 pm

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joedumars1 wrote:Yeah man he’s been a **** owner, he just needs to sign the checks and not make personnel (players) decision, but he has over and over.

Funny thing, when we need a move made he sits in his hands, but it’s actually a move that only he can do, it’s not a don’t trade Drummond cause he don’t want to move, it’s a he can fire these guys, but he sits in his hands. He sucks.


If you were able to spend billions of dollars to buy an NBA team, you wouldn’t decide to play GM for a decade or so no matter what anyone said?
I don’t think I would, maybe for a year. He’s meddled a lot, I’d think he would’ve learned. He can keep doing him tho, he isn’t losing any sleep, neither am I. Just feel bad for the younger generations, being able to see a ship team built is pretty awesome. I also loved defense and still do, think league average now is like
109-110 ppg, that’s crazy.
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Re: Tom Gores needs to be removed as owner of the Pistons. 

Post#31 » by ozthegap » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:39 pm

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ozthegap wrote:
joedumars1 wrote:Yeah man he’s been a **** owner, he just needs to sign the checks and not make personnel (players) decision, but he has over and over.

Funny thing, when we need a move made he sits in his hands, but it’s actually a move that only he can do, it’s not a don’t trade Drummond cause he don’t want to move, it’s a he can fire these guys, but he sits in his hands. He sucks.


If you were able to spend billions of dollars to buy an NBA team, you wouldn’t decide to play GM for a decade or so no matter what anyone said?
I don’t think I would, maybe for a year. He’s meddled a lot, I’d think he would’ve learned. He can keep doing him tho, he isn’t losing any sleep, neither am I. Just feel bad for the younger generations, being able to see a ship team built is pretty awesome. I also loved defense and still do, think league average now is like
109-110 ppg, that’s crazy.


You’d start off saying a year but then realize 1 year isn’t long enough to build a team.
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Post#32 » by joedumars1 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:42 pm

ozthegap wrote:
joedumars1 wrote:
ozthegap wrote:
If you were able to spend billions of dollars to buy an NBA team, you wouldn’t decide to play GM for a decade or so no matter what anyone said?
I don’t think I would, maybe for a year. He’s meddled a lot, I’d think he would’ve learned. He can keep doing him tho, he isn’t losing any sleep, neither am I. Just feel bad for the younger generations, being able to see a ship team built is pretty awesome. I also loved defense and still do, think league average now is like
109-110 ppg, that’s crazy.


You’d start off saying a year but then realize 1 year isn’t long enough to build a team.

Maybe or I’d be like **** this I’m going to do my cocaine and let these “basketball guys” do their thing.
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Post#33 » by Uncle Mxy » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:00 pm

I'm sure Tom can redeem himself by getting Blake onboard again. I hear he's working at Costco these days...

https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/news-child-support-baby-momma-nba-twitter-mocks-free-agent-blake-griffin-seen-working-costco

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