NYPiston wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:I actually like Gores as an owner. He’s made all the, at the time, right hires.
1. SVG was highly regarded. Most here were ecstatic when we got him.
2. Troy Weaver was supposedly a big reason for Presti’s success.
3. Casey was an above average coach
4. Monty was supposed to be an elite coach.
The problem is, what could go wrong has gone wrong.
1. SVG was a decent coach but didn’t know how to draft. Some say Blake was forced on him, but the Blake years as sad as it is, was probably our best team. He just flat whiffed on Luke over Mitchell and Stanley over Booker.
2. Casey all in did an average job with the talent he had. He didn’t set this franchise back. He just really didn’t have any real talent because Blake got hurt.
3. Weaver drafted an all time bust in Killian and has made some questionable trades. Nothing spectacular but also nothing incredibly awful that it would have a multi year effect. The problem is he bottomed out and we’re still at the bottom.
4. Last year at this time Monty would be a dream. Now, it’s been the worst results imaginable.
All in all, Gores has been willing to spend and I feel like cares about Detroit. He’s made the seemingly right moves but they just haven’t worked out. I'm not unhappy with him as the guy
With all due respect, how can you possibly say this after the utter BS he spewed getting on the fans for being upset because he's good in the community and saying that Williams and Weaver aren't going anywhere?
Hiring SVG as GM wasn't a bad move in hindsight, it was a bad move from the very beginning. I wasn't on RealGM at the time so I don't know what the sentiment was around here but many people voiced concerns about him assuming the GM role.
He also meddled saying how much he valued Drummond so he's off the trade list, meddled with the Blake Griffin move and, heck, just look at the results. 0 playoff wins in 15 years now, no other sports franchise can claim that outside of the Lions lol and the Browns and that's football where playoff wins are fewer and far between.
From a pure basketball perspective, he's been an abject failure as an owner. It's nice that he's willing to spend but when you constantly surround yourself with the wrong people and then you meddle when you start getting impatient (Monty being the most recent example) then YOU are the problem.
I haven't even touched on the Arm Tellem thing but I don't know how much bandwidth I have left to list all the things he's done wrong.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion so I should respect that but I'm shocked that any Pistons fan would be not unhappy with Gores as owner.
Had Tom Gores not bought the Pistons, I firmly believe there was a real chance another owner could have bought the team and moved them. We were in an older arena outside of the city center and the pop of the TV deals had yet to take place.
I’m not saying the guy hasn’t made mistakes, but I don’t blame him for meddling. I would do the same exact thing and so would everyone on RealGM. Think about it, if you had the power to give your opinion and make it count on this franchise, would you? And it’s not even our investment.
Before SVG, we were a mess. You might’ve been concerned, but the vast majority were excited.
And his take on Weaver on Monty? No one is going to step to the microphone and be 100% transparent. What benefit is there? There is a PR component that has to be considered.