Offseason plan - Piston Fred

[PistonFred]

Well, with a relatively uneventful draft, it’s time to turn to FA and trades to set the roster for next year and set us up, here is where I see us going. Don’t see any FA worth much unless we overpay. Time to take assets for salary, and hopefully just overpaid useful players.

Trade 1 -

Unpopular add but someone who could help accomplish winning a few more games and get some draft capital for future.

Detroit trades - Stewart
Chicago trades - Lavine, 2026 #1 (protected??), 2 2nd round picks

Trade 2-


Detroit trades - Sasser
Portland trades - Grant, picks (one first, couple seconds)

Could see one more trade small for big for additional size (maybe Grimes or Ivey)….

FA signings- backup center who can rebound with size


Run a rotation of:

Cade / Ivey
Lavine / Ivey / Grimes
Fontecchino / Thompson/ Holland
Grant / Thompson / Klintman
Duren / FA

Needs a little work but arm the future with some picks and get a couple of high level contributors when healthy. Lavine is a better shooter than most on the roster and same with Grant.

Thinking here is we won’t get top level FA and can collect future assets and get a couple guys who can contribute when healthy. Elevate talent level of the roster by taking unwanted players and taking on the salary and collect a few picks. Ideal scenario would be to get 2 firsts for Lavine and 1 for grant and a handful of 2nds.

[Snakebites]

I like the idea. Get first rounders with cap space.

I don’t think the Blazers are willing to attach value to offload Grant. The Lavine deal is hard to swallow even with the pick coming back AND I’m still doubtful the Bulls do it.

The long term money here is massive. We certainly can’t do both. Even if we could take on 80 mill in salary between Grant and Lavine, are we really committing that amount of LONG TERM money to two guys like that on top of extending Cade? Both guys are signed to insane money until 2017.

That’s something a contender does, and that’s not a playoff core.

[Pharaoh]

No thanks to LaVine

Wouldn't be completely annoyed if we did bring Grant back somehow but I doubt Portland would value Sasser with their current roster.

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[dVs33]

I'm really not a lavine fan at all. I did want to get him a few years ago, but he's proven to be a defensive liability and his health and deal make him a horrible fit imo.


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[JRoy]

Well, with a relatively uneventful draft, it’s time to turn to FA and trades to set the roster for next year and set us up, here is where I see us going. Don’t see any FA worth much unless we overpay. Time to take assets for salary, and hopefully just overpaid useful players.

Trade 1 -

Unpopular add but someone who could help accomplish winning a few more games and get some draft capital for future.

Detroit trades - Stewart
Chicago trades - Lavine, 2026 #1 (protected??), 2 2nd round picks

Trade 2-


Detroit trades - Sasser
Portland trades - Grant, picks (one first, couple seconds)

Could see one more trade small for big for additional size (maybe Grimes or Ivey)….

FA signings- backup center who can rebound with size


Run a rotation of:

Cade / Ivey
Lavine / Ivey / Grimes
Fontecchino / Thompson/ Holland
Grant / Thompson / Klintman
Duren / FA

Needs a little work but arm the future with some picks and get a couple of high level contributors when healthy. Lavine is a better shooter than most on the roster and same with Grant.

Thinking here is we won’t get top level FA and can collect future assets and get a couple guys who can contribute when healthy. Elevate talent level of the roster by taking unwanted players and taking on the salary and collect a few picks. Ideal scenario would be to get 2 firsts for Lavine and 1 for grant and a handful of 2nds.

POR is not sending Grant and multiple picks to downgrade from Grant to Sasser.

[Pharaoh]

Are Portland still above the tax threshold?

If so they make for obvious trading partners but I don't see them dumping Grant for Sasser

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[JRoy]

Are Portland still above the tax threshold?

If so they make for obvious trading partners but I don't see them dumping Grant for Sasser

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I don’t think so.

Brogdon for Avdija addressed that.

[Pharaoh]

Are Portland still above the tax threshold?

If so they make for obvious trading partners but I don't see them dumping Grant for Sasser

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I don’t think so.

Brogdon for Avdija addressed that.

Then they have no reason to salary dump anyone else.

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[pistons4ever]

Tolu Smith and Daniss Jenkins as undrafted players ......why not Tyson Walker?

[Pharaoh]

Tolu Smith and Daniss Jenkins as undrafted players ......why not Tyson Walker?

Ummm who?

We already have:

Duren
Stewart
Fontecchio maybe
Klintman
Ausar
Holland
Ivey
Cade
Moore
Grimes
Sasser

And you're talking about undrafted guys?

How young and terrible do you wanna be?

Buy 3 x actual real NBA players, put Fred Vinson to work and find some kind of balance.

There's only so many sets I can come up with that feature Ausar and Holland with Cade. Stewart and Fontecchio are key to that.

We ain't doing undrafted randoms now

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[pistons4ever]

Fact is ....they signed them...perhaps only for Camp.....but why not a spartan ....

[LaSheed]

Tolu Smith and Daniss Jenkins as undrafted players ......why not Tyson Walker?

Ummm who?

We already have:

Duren
Stewart
Fontecchio maybe
Klintman
Ausar
Holland
Ivey
Cade
Moore
Grimes
Sasser

And you're talking about undrafted guys?

How young and terrible do you wanna be?

Buy 3 x actual real NBA players, put Fred Vinson to work and find some kind of balance.

There's only so many sets I can come up with that feature Ausar and Holland with Cade. Stewart and Fontecchio are key to that.

We ain't doing undrafted randoms now

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Brother relax. It's the 2 way deals lol

[Billl]

Those are both wildly slanted in the pistons favor. Both of those are rebuilding teams and absolutely won't be handing out first rounders to dump contracts. The bulls may eventually wise up and just dump lavine for nothing, but portland is looking to GET assets for grant.

[Kalamazoo317]

Maybe we can trade THJ and three seconds for Lavine

[DetroitDon15]

Well, with a relatively uneventful draft, it’s time to turn to FA and trades to set the roster for next year and set us up, here is where I see us going. Don’t see any FA worth much unless we overpay. Time to take assets for salary, and hopefully just overpaid useful players.

Trade 1 -

Unpopular add but someone who could help accomplish winning a few more games and get some draft capital for future.

Detroit trades - Stewart
Chicago trades - Lavine, 2026 #1 (protected??), 2 2nd round picks

Trade 2-


Detroit trades - Sasser
Portland trades - Grant, picks (one first, couple seconds)

Could see one more trade small for big for additional size (maybe Grimes or Ivey)….

FA signings- backup center who can rebound with size


Run a rotation of:

Cade / Ivey
Lavine / Ivey / Grimes
Fontecchino / Thompson/ Holland
Grant / Thompson / Klintman
Duren / FA

Needs a little work but arm the future with some picks and get a couple of high level contributors when healthy. Lavine is a better shooter than most on the roster and same with Grant.

Thinking here is we won’t get top level FA and can collect future assets and get a couple guys who can contribute when healthy. Elevate talent level of the roster by taking unwanted players and taking on the salary and collect a few picks. Ideal scenario would be to get 2 firsts for Lavine and 1 for grant and a handful of 2nds.

Switch those picks to second rounder. You clearly haven’t watched this team in years. Detroit actively rejects acquiring first round picks. They don’t want to commit money that will hurt their ability to be a bottom feeder and lose future cap space to acquire more second round picks and veterans teams don’t want (overpaid).