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Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick

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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#201 » by 7r5ur » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:18 pm

JRoy wrote:Will be interesting to see what DET will do to upgrade shooting.

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Post#202 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:33 pm

That is one shiny scalp.
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#203 » by GreekAlex » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:55 pm

JRoy wrote:That is one shiny scalp.


The glare could be distracting to shooters :lol:
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#204 » by breezypeezy » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:16 pm

I think people will be pleasantly surprized at his D prowess, his switch capability 1 thru 4, his rim protection and motor.
Theres potential with this 18 y.o.

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Post#205 » by Notanoob » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:20 pm

He basically looks like Jaylen Brown at Cal. I hated Brown as a prospect but he got massively better at everything he was bad at. Holland at least has the upside to be a difference-maker and I love how many steals he picks up, but I talk myself into saying nice things about every guy we take in the first.

At least we didn't get some future bench piece just because we wanted more shooting so we could win 24 games instead of 14. Good not to be delusional.
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#206 » by Moses ShamMoses » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:31 pm

I'm not bummed by the pick. I haven't watch much Ron Holland and I know he has question marks, but at #5 in this crappy draft you could do worse. You have to hope part of his issue was being part of a poorly run team and being asked to do too much.
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#207 » by DetroitDon15 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:52 am

breezypeezy wrote:I think people will be pleasantly surprized at his D prowess, his switch capability 1 thru 4, his rim protection and motor.
Theres potential with this 18 y.o.

Eta: The highlight reel I saw had the broadcaster gloating-
"You will NOT outjump him!"


I’m not sure if you are speaking about Ansur or Holland here which scares me.
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#208 » by whitehops » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:13 am

i was hoping we'd trade the pick but obviously you need two teams to do a trade so all things considered, happy with the pick.

i did less research on prospects this draft but i'm glad we went with holland as opposed to someone like buzelis. clingan would've been cool too but the celtics showed why having multiple quality wings is so important holland gives us the best chance at that in this draft. his shot mechanics don't look nearly as bad as his 24% shooting suggests, which is already a big head start over ausar.

i think he's in a good spot too. he won't be asked to create offense, he can just come off the bench and use his motor/athleticism/defense and slashing/cutting. someone mentioned jaylen brown earlier and i think they share a lot of similarities as prospects and brown got to develop at his own pace and had zero expectations out of the gate, which i think is similar to holland.

there is obviously SO MUCH that has to go right in their development but having a forward duo of ausar and holland can be pretty lethal. athletic, crazy motors, defensive effort, making the extra pass, etc.
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Post#209 » by GSWFan1994 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:47 pm

Holland reminds me a bit of young Sprewell in terms of playing style. Plays hard, 2-way potential. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Bonus points for being a Teddy Pendergrass fan.

He's still 18, so there's a clear path for improvement ahead. If you check his monthly splits from the G-League season you can see there was definite improvement in a few months of time.

Holland was amongst my underrated players in big board I did, along with Carrington. I don't have a problem with him being the choice at #5.

Good luck guys. Once the pieces start falling into place (via draft, improvement within, right rotations, trades, etc) you'll have a very nice, enjoyable, versatile team. It'll be worth it, trust me.
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

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Post#211 » by uncleoswald » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:14 pm

The Mavs signed Naji Marshall to a very team-friendly contract (3/27). The Pistons have more cap space than the Mavs. The Pistons were also known to be in the market for Marshall. So it seems logical that the Pistons could have exceeded the contract that Marshall got, but chose not to.

Maybe Marshall chose to go to the Mavs because the Pistons are bad or because he doesn't like Michigan. Maybe the Pistons just didn't want to pay him more than what the Mavs offered.

I think the second maybe is more likely than the first, which makes me think we're not prioritizing improving the SG role this offseason. Which makes me think we looooove Holland and want to play him a lot, even in his rookie year. Either that or we love Ivey and THJ, which seems less likely.

What do you think about that?
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#212 » by TPA » Mon Jul 1, 2024 5:22 pm

uncleoswald wrote:The Mavs signed Naji Marshall to a very team-friendly contract (3/27). The Pistons have more cap space than the Mavs. The Pistons were also known to be in the market for Marshall. So it seems logical that the Pistons could have exceeded the contract that Marshall got, but chose not to.

Maybe Marshall chose to go to the Mavs because the Pistons are bad or because he doesn't like Michigan. Maybe the Pistons just didn't want to pay him more than what the Mavs offered.

I think the second maybe is more likely than the first, which makes me think we're not prioritizing improving the SG role this offseason. Which makes me think we looooove Holland and want to play him a lot, even in his rookie year. Either that or we love Ivey and THJ, which seems less likely.

What do you think about that?

I don't understand what all the Marshall hype was about. The contract that he ended up signing should signal the sentiments for him around the league. I think that once Detroit got THJ (and the draft capital that came along with him), that likely ended our interest in acquiring another SG/SF player. I don't know if many (any?) FOs saw Marshall as a potential breakout type player who was worth a whole lot more $ than what he got.
I believe the Pistons (current FO) DO love Holland, and probably want to see what ivey can do in his third year. This will be a big year for him. It's time for him to clean up his game and show what he can do in a structured system with complementary pieces around him. I really hope that Jaden can show out this year.
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Re: Ron Holland: Detroit Pistons 2024 5th Overall Pick 

Post#213 » by Billl » Mon Jul 1, 2024 5:33 pm

uncleoswald wrote:The Mavs signed Naji Marshall to a very team-friendly contract (3/27). The Pistons have more cap space than the Mavs. The Pistons were also known to be in the market for Marshall. So it seems logical that the Pistons could have exceeded the contract that Marshall got, but chose not to.

Maybe Marshall chose to go to the Mavs because the Pistons are bad or because he doesn't like Michigan. Maybe the Pistons just didn't want to pay him more than what the Mavs offered.

I think the second maybe is more likely than the first, which makes me think we're not prioritizing improving the SG role this offseason. Which makes me think we looooove Holland and want to play him a lot, even in his rookie year. Either that or we love Ivey and THJ, which seems less likely.

What do you think about that?


That's the thing about free agency. The guy has to want to come here. Dallas just went to the Finals. We just set the loss record. That makes a big difference. Maybe you can offer him a ton more and try to get him anyway, but do you really want him at $15 mil/yr? This was the first year he was decent from 3, and that was on 150 attempts. He would have a been a nice guy to get on a bargain deal and see if he could grow into a bigger role, but I don't think you want to pay him like he's already done that.

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