What would the Pistons' return in a Beef Stew trade look like?

[Kalamazoo317]

I think his shooting is much more valuable if he’s a 5 than if he’s a 4

His contract is average, I’d say, rather than great. And I believe there’s a trade kicker that hits the team he’s traded to

[JennetteMcCurdy]

Of course we don't know specific offers.

[Crymson]

I think his shooting is much more valuable if he’s a 5 than if he’s a 4

His contract is average, I’d say, rather than great. And I believe there’s a trade kicker that hits the team he’s traded to

No team in its right mind will play him full-time at power forward. That he was played there last season was due to a pie-in-the-sky decision by an incompetent front office whose rationale seemingly amounted to "It'll work because we say so."

Stew absolutely lacks the qualities necessary to play at power forward, and that's not going to change. Playing him there also incurs the opportunity cost of taking him away from the position he's best at.

He's useful on defense in certain matchups (e.g. Giannis), but in no other situation should he be playing at the position.

[Snakebites]

I never want to see Stewart at the 4 again.

Yes that limits his ceiling as a contributor on this roster. Thats okay.

Troy was obsessed with wanting to get something out of the 2020 draft. That was even cited as part of the reason for his extension. And after giving him that they were determined to make him a starter.

None of that makes him a starter in reality. I don’t think he is one, though I’d be open to starting him at the 5 if Jalen’s defense doesn’t improve.

[DetroitSho]

So as it stands, no one really wants Stewart for the price. Glad we all agree on that!

What? lol

Teams apparently didn't want him for the price Weaver (and so far Langdon) have for him. That's all we know. We DO know that Boston, OKC, and Dallas wanted him AFTER the contract extension was signed. Any talk on the value returned would be conjecture.

Totally agree w BDM. I don’t understand Jeanette’s logic on this one.

Isn't this the same guy that refuses to provide specific details of the trades Langdon turned down for #5, but now he's requiring specifics?

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[Uncle Mxy]

Our return on Beef Stew would look positively Stewie:


Or perhaps we could trade for this guy?


Seriously, I'm not feeling like we get anything we care about for Beef Stew. And, unless we have an enforcer in our ranks from all our offseason moves, we might as well keep him unless an offer comes up.

[Billl]

Stew is needed. Not to say he's unavailable, but it would take an unlikely over pay to pry him free because we'd immediately need to find another big who can both defend & shoot. Makes this largely a non-starter.

Stew makes more sense as part of a package that would secure an upgrade. He's not the guy we want to move for picks/prospects.

What do you think Stew’s ceiling as a shooter is?

As of now I don’t think his shooting brings much value given he isn’t actually spreading the floor with it- teams are still able to lay off of him without consequence. To me unless you think it’s an aspect of his game that can expand it’s of smaller importance.

He's got to earn a rep as a guy who consistently shoots a good percentage on decent volume. It was never going to happen in year 1 of "beef stew is a 3 point shooter". It takes a while for a scouting report to change on a guy. If he continues to take half his shots from 3 and stays at 38%? Teams will start playing him more for that shot.

[Cowology]

Stew is needed. Not to say he's unavailable, but it would take an unlikely over pay to pry him free because we'd immediately need to find another big who can both defend & shoot. Makes this largely a non-starter.

Stew makes more sense as part of a package that would secure an upgrade. He's not the guy we want to move for picks/prospects.

What do you think Stew’s ceiling as a shooter is?

As of now I don’t think his shooting brings much value given he isn’t actually spreading the floor with it- teams are still able to lay off of him without consequence. To me unless you think it’s an aspect of his game that can expand it’s of smaller importance.

He's got to earn a rep as a guy who consistently shoots a good percentage on decent volume. It was never going to happen in year 1 of "beef stew is a 3 point shooter". It takes a while for a scouting report to change on a guy. If he continues to take half his shots from 3 and stays at 38%? Teams will start playing him more for that shot.

This feels like an excuse, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I think our shooting was so bad that teams came in game planning around packing the paint regardless of who was on the floor. Even IF Stew is hitting a high number on a good % that wasn't going to beat anybody.

The more shooters you put around him, the less effective that strategy becomes.

[joedumars1]

Depending how it’s made runny and brown, lol

[Crymson]

He's got to earn a rep as a guy who consistently shoots a good percentage on decent volume. It was never going to happen in year 1 of "beef stew is a 3 point shooter". It takes a while for a scouting report to change on a guy. If he continues to take half his shots from 3 and stays at 38%? Teams will start playing him more for that shot.

His ability to genuinely space the floor isn't loaded entirely into his shooting (though his slow release and hesitance to shoot when a defender is closing out on him are issues). It's severely compromised by his awful mobility for the position. Because he cannot even move at a basic pace around the perimeter, let alone have any hope whatsoever of beating a defender from off the ball, he's extremely easy for defenses to track. If they leave him to help elsewhere -- and they do so often-- they can be quite certain that he's going to be almost exactly where they left him. And when they rotate back to close out on him, he's unable to punish them for it; his handle and first step are so poor that he stands no hope of getting anywhere near the rim before a defender gets in his way (he made SIX driving layups in his 46 games last season).

This is less of an issue at center, because he's at least drawing the opposing big out of the paint, but the combination of that issue with his near-total inability to create any offense destroys his value on offense at power forward.