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BDM22 wrote:
Except the percentages are virtually identical if you remove the games where he was shut down at the end of this season and only count the mid-season games.
JennetteMcCurdy wrote:BDM22 wrote:
Except the percentages are virtually identical if you remove the games where he was shut down at the end of this season and only count the mid-season games.
Go ahead and show all of us those five game sample sizes to create your straw man argument. How about the third Friday of the month - do the Pistons miss him then?
BDM22 wrote:JennetteMcCurdy wrote:BDM22 wrote:
Except the percentages are virtually identical if you remove the games where he was shut down at the end of this season and only count the mid-season games.
Go ahead and show all of us those five game sample sizes to create your straw man argument. How about the third Friday of the month - do the Pistons miss him then?
Right, it's just a big coincidence that we're consistently way worse when he doesn't play every single year. That he lead this team in On-Off rating by a lot (which was true well before we started tanking). Surely I'M the one that is staw manning here. I'm cherry picking a 71 game sample size across 4 different seasons
It definitely couldn't be that he plays hard, he plays defense, and he shoots which are pretty much 3 things that guarantee you're going to be useful on the floor.
flow wrote:Mr Peanut wrote:flow wrote:
Early?
Cade was shut down with only 7 games left.
Duren was shut down with only 2 games left.
Ivey wasn't shut down.
Sassar wasn't shut down.
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I don't think that's a truly representative summary. Stewart was shut down in mid-March and Ausar just before him (note these two guys were our team leaders in on/off +/- for the season). Fontecchio also mid-March. Grimes played like 6 games after the trade deadline and was then shut down.
Yes we still would've sucked overall for the season if those guys were all active until the final game. But it's not outside of the realms of possibility that we would've won another 5 or so games and maybe had a bit more momentum heading into the off-season.
Those guys were injured, not 'shut down'. Lip was asserting we weren't trying to win games because guys were shut down.
And yes, it is outside the realm of possibility that we would have won an extra five games.
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ducler wrote:How you will count the follow as they are UFA and unlikely to play in NBA ever again ?
Rhoden
Gibson
Boeheim
Mr Peanut wrote:I think we can scrub Rhoden, Gibson and Tosan off that list pretty soon. And wouldn't be surprised to see another player or two off the list beyond that.
