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#47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET

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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#121 » by Snakebites » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:57 am

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Cowology wrote:Stew & Sheed are apples and oranges. Bad comparison. Regardless, fans are/were vocal about wanting these guys to control themselves a bit better. Passion is fine, but that's really no excuse for some of this nonsense. You can play tough and bring physicality without taking it to that place. That applies to Sheed, Draymond, Stew and pretty much every other hot-head who winds up costing their team. And frankly I just don't want to see it in a game. That's not being soft; it's just having some respect for the game and the people who play it.


Yeah Sheed wasn’t anything like this.

Maybe it’s because I was a teenager but I remember Sheed not being able to control himself and get techs at the most inopportune times. And sometimes they’d fire up the team. The big difference is Sheed was the most talented player on the floor wearing a Pistons uniform. My argument is purely the cultural impact which I feel like is the same. Passion and caring fires up a team. And sometimes it causes chaos. Mahorn is probably the more apt comparison based on what I know now but the bad boys were before my basketball years.

Yeah, if you think that getting mad at calls the refs made and getting techs is the same as what Stew is doing here I’m not sure we’re experiencing the same reality here, and I’m not sure discussing this with you will be beneficial.
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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#122 » by Cowology » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:12 am

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Cowology wrote:Stew & Sheed are apples and oranges. Bad comparison. Regardless, fans are/were vocal about wanting these guys to control themselves a bit better. Passion is fine, but that's really no excuse for some of this nonsense. You can play tough and bring physicality without taking it to that place. That applies to Sheed, Draymond, Stew and pretty much every other hot-head who winds up costing their team. And frankly I just don't want to see it in a game. That's not being soft; it's just having some respect for the game and the people who play it.


Yeah Sheed wasn’t anything like this.

Maybe it’s because I was a teenager but I remember Sheed not being able to control himself and get techs at the most inopportune times. And sometimes they’d fire up the team. The big difference is Sheed was the most talented player on the floor wearing a Pistons uniform. My argument is purely the cultural impact which I feel like is the same. Passion and caring fires up a team. And sometimes it causes chaos. Mahorn is probably the more apt comparison based on what I know now but the bad boys were before my basketball years.
Sheed set the record for tech's in a season, so yeah it was a big problem...but he didn't play dirty. His issue was almost exclusively with the refs. Mahorn is the better comparison because of both the physical aspect involved as well as intent. Those guys are (at times) out to cause harm. Sheed was not.

I grew up watching the Bad Boys and have nothing but love for Mahorn and all those guys, but it's a different era and some things are better left in the past. It's just about levels. Keep it at a 7 or an 8. Don't take it that one step too far.
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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#123 » by ComboGuardCity » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:47 am

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Yeah Sheed wasn’t anything like this.

Maybe it’s because I was a teenager but I remember Sheed not being able to control himself and get techs at the most inopportune times. And sometimes they’d fire up the team. The big difference is Sheed was the most talented player on the floor wearing a Pistons uniform. My argument is purely the cultural impact which I feel like is the same. Passion and caring fires up a team. And sometimes it causes chaos. Mahorn is probably the more apt comparison based on what I know now but the bad boys were before my basketball years.

Yeah, if you think that getting mad at calls the refs made and getting techs is the same as what Stew is doing here I’m not sure we’re experiencing the same reality here, and I’m not sure discussing this with you will be beneficial.


Lol this felt unnecessarily rude but ok
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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#124 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:10 am

Are the Pacers our current biggest rival? Feels like the team we have the most bad blood with in the league.
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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#125 » by Snakebites » Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:49 pm

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ComboGuardCity wrote:Maybe it’s because I was a teenager but I remember Sheed not being able to control himself and get techs at the most inopportune times. And sometimes they’d fire up the team. The big difference is Sheed was the most talented player on the floor wearing a Pistons uniform. My argument is purely the cultural impact which I feel like is the same. Passion and caring fires up a team. And sometimes it causes chaos. Mahorn is probably the more apt comparison based on what I know now but the bad boys were before my basketball years.

Yeah, if you think that getting mad at calls the refs made and getting techs is the same as what Stew is doing here I’m not sure we’re experiencing the same reality here, and I’m not sure discussing this with you will be beneficial.


Lol this felt unnecessarily rude but ok

Perhaps it was. Apologies.

I do think if you’re fine with what Stewart did that’s fine- just say that. I don’t think making comparisons to older players who didn’t do the same thing helps build a case.

Rasheed’s anger wasn’t physical and never to my memory directed at other players. He notably didn’t even participate in the Malice at the Palace and actually tried to de-escalate the situation. You know Stew would have been right in the middle of that had he been around.

Rasheed definitely did have his critics on this board back in the day, though the technicals weren’t the biggest part of that.
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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#126 » by bstein14 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:59 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Are the Pacers our current biggest rival? Feels like the team we have the most bad blood with in the league.


Most chippy with Pacers, Bucks and Magic the last few years IMO but our coach being best friends with Orlando's coach means that its unlikely we really go at eachother like that time and time again.
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Re: #47 - Pistons@Pacers - 7pm ET 

Post#127 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:23 pm

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Kalamazoo317 wrote:Are the Pacers our current biggest rival? Feels like the team we have the most bad blood with in the league.


Most chippy with Pacers, Bucks and Magic the last few years IMO but our coach being best friends with Orlando's coach means that its unlikely we really go at eachother like that time and time again.


I feel like we have a little something extra for Toronto too, going back to the Casey days. But, yeah, I agree that's the list.

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