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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1041 » by Canadafan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:37 pm

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What does this mean? Get another player this year? Or the summer?
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1042 » by thesack12 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:43 pm

Canadafan wrote:
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What does this mean? Get another player this year? Or the summer?


This year.

Means they can either sign someone or claim someone off waivers using that exception. Its not worthless, but at this it isn't real useful.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1043 » by LaSheed » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:16 pm

I highly doubt we would use it.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1044 » by thesack12 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:43 pm

LaSheed wrote:I highly doubt we would use it.


Yeah, there probably won't even be anybody available worth using it on.

There will be some buyout guys hit the market, but its pretty unlikely those guys would be interested in coming to Detroit, and a lot of those guys are signed via the league minimum exception anyways. We are also probably past the point where anybody intriguing might be put on waivers. Usually that type of activity ends at the trade deadline where teams need to cut down to the roster limit of 15.

Like I mentioned earlier, its not a useless exception and you would rather have one than not have one. But at this point its probably not going to bear any fruit.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1045 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 2:18 pm

Wouldn't it mean we could offer *more* than the minimum to one of those buy out guys, though? That plus the possibility that they're in the playoffs might make us actually competitive in that market? (Not that buy out players are typically big needle movers).
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1046 » by thesack12 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:24 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Wouldn't it mean we could offer *more* than the minimum to one of those buy out guys, though? That plus the possibility that they're in the playoffs might make us actually competitive in that market? (Not that buy out players are typically big needle movers).


You're right, it does mean Detroit could offer more than the minimum to buyout guys. However, if a notable talent gets bought out chances are that type of guy's biggest motivation to sign won't be money. Especially since we are only talking about the couple month pro-rated portion of a few mil and only for the next couple months.

Typically, the notable buyout guys are primarily motivated by situation. While Detroir's situation isn't bad, it also isn't overly great either.

Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1047 » by Kilo » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:30 pm

Wouldn't mind a PF back-up if right one hits buy out market.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1048 » by bstein14 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:34 pm

Yes, it means we can pay more to a waived FA if they hit the market. Ben Simmons for $7.9 million instead of him going elsewhere for the minimum. Not that I want him or that he'd fit well with this group, but that's the type of thing we could do is outbid most teams still.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1049 » by DetroitSho » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:00 pm

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Kalamazoo317 wrote:Wouldn't it mean we could offer *more* than the minimum to one of those buy out guys, though? That plus the possibility that they're in the playoffs might make us actually competitive in that market? (Not that buy out players are typically big needle movers).


You're right, it does mean Detroit could offer more than the minimum to buyout guys. However, if a notable talent gets bought out chances are that type of guy's biggest motivation to sign won't be money. Especially since we are only talking about the couple month pro-rated portion of a few mil and only for the next couple months.

Typically, the notable buyout guys are primarily motivated by situation. While Detroir's situation isn't bad, it also isn't overly great either.

Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.
Wayne Ellington came here and lit it up lowkey.

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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1050 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:13 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Wouldn't it mean we could offer *more* than the minimum to one of those buy out guys, though? That plus the possibility that they're in the playoffs might make us actually competitive in that market? (Not that buy out players are typically big needle movers).


You're right, it does mean Detroit could offer more than the minimum to buyout guys. However, if a notable talent gets bought out chances are that type of guy's biggest motivation to sign won't be money. Especially since we are only talking about the couple month pro-rated portion of a few mil and only for the next couple months.

Typically, the notable buyout guys are primarily motivated by situation. While Detroir's situation isn't bad, it also isn't overly great either.

Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.

Yeah buyout guys are already getting paid by the team that buys them out, you don’t generally see bidding wars for buyouts- they often get bought out with specific destinations in mind.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1051 » by ComboGuardCity » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:58 pm

I’m solely starting up the Ben Simmons hype train with the exception. I doubt he signs here but he does fit two needs: a ball handler and a 4.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1052 » by GreekAlex » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:16 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:I’m solely starting up the Ben Simmons hype train with the exception. I doubt he signs here but he does fit two needs: a ball handler and a 4.


I don’t want his poisonous attitude anywhere near this team.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1053 » by Invictus88 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:28 pm

Snakebites wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Lakers got a nice starting 5 but no bench

No defense, no depth, no draft assets to attain them.

They aren’t in a great spot even with the Luka deal, which underscores how terrible a situation they were in before the trade- they were in it deep.

They’ll find a way to leverage the Luka years into a contender at some point- it helps when you’re on easy mode. Someone will demand a trade there for pennys on the dollar. They’ll get another gift.


They won't do this but if they immediately flipped Luka this offseason and did what any GM with half a brain would do (Make it an open offer for the best bidder) then they likely get a haul.

Why don't they just pick up Ben Simmons for free once he hits the FA market after his buyout for example..? At 40 million per season he's terrible. For a vet minimum contract or something slightly higher he's good value as a backup PG.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1054 » by whitehops » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:56 pm

thesack12 wrote:Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.

I think Paul reed last season qualifies, we just picked him up off waivers because we had the cap space and didn’t want him to hit the buyout market.

It rarely happens because guys that get bought out usually have large contracts.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1055 » by DetroitSho » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:25 pm

whitehops wrote:
thesack12 wrote:Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.

I think Paul reed last season qualifies, we just picked him up off waivers because we had the cap space and didn’t want him to hit the buyout market.

It rarely happens because guys that get bought out usually have large contracts.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1056 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:29 pm

whitehops wrote:
thesack12 wrote:Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.

I think Paul reed last season qualifies, we just picked him up off waivers because we had the cap space and didn’t want him to hit the buyout market.

It rarely happens because guys that get bought out usually have large contracts.


And I'd argue that was a really nice and impactful pick up!
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1057 » by zeebneeb » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:21 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
whitehops wrote:
thesack12 wrote:Off the top of my head, Wayne Ellington was the last buyout signing Detroit made. If somebody does get brought in via that room exception, a Wayne Ellington caliber player is probably the best case scenario.

I think Paul reed last season qualifies, we just picked him up off waivers because we had the cap space and didn’t want him to hit the buyout market.

It rarely happens because guys that get bought out usually have large contracts.


And I'd argue that was a really nice and impactful pick up!
Paul Reed, has been a pleasant surprise. It is such a change going from starters that are no longer in the league, to having a 13-15 guy who is a real NBA player, comes in, and contributes immediately.

The difference between this year, and last, in terms of viable NBA talent, is crazy.
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Re: Trade Deadline 2025 

Post#1058 » by LaSheed » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:25 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
whitehops wrote:I think Paul reed last season qualifies, we just picked him up off waivers because we had the cap space and didn’t want him to hit the buyout market.

It rarely happens because guys that get bought out usually have large contracts.


And I'd argue that was a really nice and impactful pick up!
Paul Reed, has been a pleasant surprise. It is such a change going from starters that are no longer in the league, to having a 13-15 guy who is a real NBA player, comes in, and contributes immediately.

The difference between this year, and last, in terms of viable NBA talent, is crazy.


You could go a step further and say look what just average NBA talent has done to us. THJ, Reed, Harris are nothing to right home about but descent NBA players. Internal growth has been the biggest factor but NBA vets are a thing!

Edit: Coaching as well lol

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