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Naz Reid or Santi Aldama. Neither likely but would be pretty cool if we did
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bstein14 wrote:dVs33 wrote:I like the line up with Harris for next year, but I would like another stretch big for when Harris' deal finishes. If we could resign Harris on a small deal and develop a younger pf for the starting role in the coming years it would be ideal. I just know who the hypothetical young PF is at this point. Someone like hunter would have been good, but obviously the asking price was higher than what we could afford and his deal is pretty big as it is.bstein14 wrote:
With Ausar's defensive versatility and rebounding ability I think we can really get away with any forward added to the starting lineup it doesn't really have to be a PF. I was pretty high on the idea of bringing in Cam Johnson if the price wasn't too high. That said, our starting lineup might already be set for next year since Harris is making $26 million and he's been solid for us.
C: Duren
F: Tobias
F: Ausar
G: Ivey
G: Cade
Ivey is actually the weakest link in that starting lineup currently, but we know he's still young and getting better and Harris is on the tail end of his career.
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Naz Reid is going to be a FA this summer but he'd probably take all of our cap space (something around 4 years $100 million). We'd likely have to give Duren a similar extension this summer as well to keep him happy..... we could then use the "room exception" to resign Beasley and perhaps get THJ (or Schroeder)back for the vet minimum.
C: Duren(27) / Stew(21)
F: Naz(26) / Harris(22)
F: Ausar(31) / RH2 or Font(17)
G: Ivey (27)/(Beasley(21)
G: Cade(33) / THJ or Schroeder or Sasser (15)
You think Beasley would command a price of what the MLE is though. Shröder too. Doubt this dream could happen
More likely Shröder and Beasley takes our space. And we run it back . THJr gets the 8mil exemption or a shiny new PF prospect?
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Canadafan wrote:bstein14 wrote:dVs33 wrote:I like the line up with Harris for next year, but I would like another stretch big for when Harris' deal finishes. If we could resign Harris on a small deal and develop a younger pf for the starting role in the coming years it would be ideal. I just know who the hypothetical young PF is at this point. Someone like hunter would have been good, but obviously the asking price was higher than what we could afford and his deal is pretty big as it is.
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Naz Reid is going to be a FA this summer but he'd probably take all of our cap space (something around 4 years $100 million). We'd likely have to give Duren a similar extension this summer as well to keep him happy..... we could then use the "room exception" to resign Beasley and perhaps get THJ (or Schroeder)back for the vet minimum.
C: Duren(27) / Stew(21)
F: Naz(26) / Harris(22)
F: Ausar(31) / RH2 or Font(17)
G: Ivey (27)/(Beasley(21)
G: Cade(33) / THJ or Schroeder or Sasser (15)
You think Beasley would command a price of what the MLE is though. Shröder too. Doubt this dream could happen
More likely Shröder and Beasley takes our space. And we run it back . THJr gets the 8mil exemption or a shiny new PF prospect?
The thing with Beasley is, he's put up really good shooting numbers in the past and he hasn't gotten much attention in FA at all. There's about 10 teams paying the luxury tax and they don't even get MLE they only get the tax-payer MLE which is about $6 million so that pretty much entirely eliminates 10 teams from pursuing him.... that said, a lot of his ceiling for a contract is still TBD if he comes up in a a playoff series win he is going to get paid. If she shoots 30% from deep in a 4-1 loss to the Bucks, Pacers or Knicks he's likely going to be making less than $15 million per year for sure.
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Either one, and the Pistons are set for the next 5 years, and immediately become a serious playoff team.LaSheed wrote:Naz Reid or Santi Aldama. Neither likely but would be pretty cool if we did
Then its just gaining experience.
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Doubt we can get Naz Reid.
Resigning Malik feels like it’s probably the best move. Will need to make other improvements internally and on the fringes.
Our biggest offseason addition will likely be Ivey returning.
Resigning Malik feels like it’s probably the best move. Will need to make other improvements internally and on the fringes.
Our biggest offseason addition will likely be Ivey returning.
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jaredtyshaf wrote:How long do you wait to surround Cade with some established talent though? I get developing, but it’s not guaranteed that Cade will remain in top form for the next 10 years (injuries, etc.).
I’d personally like to see us be open to signing big names if they become available and are willing to come to Detroit. That being said I don’t think we should go into the off-season with a make or break mentality. If a “star” becomes available and fits out team we shouldn’t pass though.
Free agency is a nothingburger now, you never see any big names hit the market because teams either sign them to a max contract/retain them (can offer more than other teams) or they trade them but more the former.
You want a #2 for Cade? You draft and develop one or you trade for one. Free agency is fools gold where you overpay middling players, stay away. Do more Beasley type signings, short term deals and draft/develop from within then strike with a bigger trade if it becomes available but don't force it. Look at the great duos around the league, Tatum/Brown, Jokic/Murray, SGA was a trade but a lot of their core was drafted and developed although they had a crapload of assets to do that. Houston's core drafted and developed, Orlando's duo of Banchero/Wagner even though they've taken a step back etc.
Bottom line? Free agency ain't it. I think the objective should be smaller signings, keep developing the core then maybe make a bigger move at the deadline now that the Pistons have control of all their 1sts when they're, hopefully, a true contender.
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NYPiston wrote:jaredtyshaf wrote:How long do you wait to surround Cade with some established talent though? I get developing, but it’s not guaranteed that Cade will remain in top form for the next 10 years (injuries, etc.).
I’d personally like to see us be open to signing big names if they become available and are willing to come to Detroit. That being said I don’t think we should go into the off-season with a make or break mentality. If a “star” becomes available and fits out team we shouldn’t pass though.
Free agency is a nothingburger now, you never see any big names hit the market because teams either sign them to a max contract/retain them (can offer more than other teams) or they trade them but more the former.
You want a #2 for Cade? You draft and develop one or you trade for one. Free agency is fools gold where you overpay middling players, stay away. Do more Beasley type signings, short term deals and draft/develop from within then strike with a bigger trade if it becomes available but don't force it. Look at the great duos around the league, Tatum/Brown, Jokic/Murray, SGA was a trade but a lot of their core was drafted and developed although they had a crapload of assets to do that. Houston's core drafted and developed, Orlando's duo of Banchero/Wagner even though they've taken a step back etc.
Bottom line? Free agency ain't it. I think the objective should be smaller signings, keep developing the core then maybe make a bigger move at the deadline now that the Pistons have control of all their 1sts when they're, hopefully, a true contender.
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NYPiston wrote:jaredtyshaf wrote:How long do you wait to surround Cade with some established talent though? I get developing, but it’s not guaranteed that Cade will remain in top form for the next 10 years (injuries, etc.).
I’d personally like to see us be open to signing big names if they become available and are willing to come to Detroit. That being said I don’t think we should go into the off-season with a make or break mentality. If a “star” becomes available and fits out team we shouldn’t pass though.
Free agency is a nothingburger now, you never see any big names hit the market because teams either sign them to a max contract/retain them (can offer more than other teams) or they trade them but more the former.
You want a #2 for Cade? You draft and develop one or you trade for one. Free agency is fools gold where you overpay middling players, stay away. Do more Beasley type signings, short term deals and draft/develop from within then strike with a bigger trade if it becomes available but don't force it. Look at the great duos around the league, Tatum/Brown, Jokic/Murray, SGA was a trade but a lot of their core was drafted and developed although they had a crapload of assets to do that. Houston's core drafted and developed, Orlando's duo of Banchero/Wagner even though they've taken a step back etc.
Bottom line? Free agency ain't it. I think the objective should be smaller signings, keep developing the core then maybe make a bigger move at the deadline now that the Pistons have control of all their 1sts when they're, hopefully, a true contender.
I think all this first and second apron stuff is going to change free agency over the next few years though.
You are right that a number 2 guy isn't going to come through free agency, but I'm hoping for a 3rd or 4th option kind of guy which is why I like Naz Reid. Whether he is actually gettable is another question because the TWolves literally cannot afford for him to leave if they want to compete.
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I like their team more and more and I watch them when I can. I love the culture and cohesion they are forming and I am supporting them in the East. As a Spaniard, I also follow Santi Aldama (currently our only representative in the NBA). I would love for them to be able to sign him this summer. The GRIZZLIES will have problems paying him if JJJ is eligible for the super maximum.
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NYPiston wrote:jaredtyshaf wrote:How long do you wait to surround Cade with some established talent though? I get developing, but it’s not guaranteed that Cade will remain in top form for the next 10 years (injuries, etc.).
I’d personally like to see us be open to signing big names if they become available and are willing to come to Detroit. That being said I don’t think we should go into the off-season with a make or break mentality. If a “star” becomes available and fits out team we shouldn’t pass though.
Free agency is a nothingburger now, you never see any big names hit the market because teams either sign them to a max contract/retain them (can offer more than other teams) or they trade them but more the former.
You want a #2 for Cade? You draft and develop one or you trade for one. Free agency is fools gold where you overpay middling players, stay away. Do more Beasley type signings, short term deals and draft/develop from within then strike with a bigger trade if it becomes available but don't force it. Look at the great duos around the league, Tatum/Brown, Jokic/Murray, SGA was a trade but a lot of their core was drafted and developed although they had a crapload of assets to do that. Houston's core drafted and developed, Orlando's duo of Banchero/Wagner even though they've taken a step back etc.
Bottom line? Free agency ain't it. I think the objective should be smaller signings, keep developing the core then maybe make a bigger move at the deadline now that the Pistons have control of all their 1sts when they're, hopefully, a true contender.
I’m not denying it’s unlikely, but when a young star emerges in the league you tend to see other players want to come play with them. Cade is going to be a superstar in this league, if he isn’t already. He is also unselfish and makes everyone better which makes it even more attractive to come play with him.
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guys i'm rooting for you and following along in the east..i was mulling over what you could do this offseason other than keeping the block together..i think a Fontecchio upgrade is a priority (a 4 that can shoot etc) the idea would be to keep future assets and make a move using cap space.. i can think of 3 options...starts with Fontecchio+ 2 SRP to the NETS..which frees up more money.. 1 option (in no particular order).. absorb Toppin's contract..the Pacers need to save money to re-sign Turner..
2 The Grizzlies are very careful with their finances and JJJ is going to get a huge raise...Aldama is a restricted free agent and they probably won't be able to keep him...would you offer a slightly inflated 1 year contract around 20 million??
3 option sign LaRavia who doesn't have bird rights,since his opinion was rejected... do you like any?which one?
2 The Grizzlies are very careful with their finances and JJJ is going to get a huge raise...Aldama is a restricted free agent and they probably won't be able to keep him...would you offer a slightly inflated 1 year contract around 20 million??
3 option sign LaRavia who doesn't have bird rights,since his opinion was rejected... do you like any?which one?
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So Cades contract will go up as he makes an all nba team. I read up 8mil in 1st year. Not having our pick this year offsets that some. Gonna be interesting to see what we do this summer. Or what we can do
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Astaluego wrote:guys i'm rooting for you and following along in the east..i was mulling over what you could do this offseason other than keeping the block together..i think a Fontecchio upgrade is a priority (a 4 that can shoot etc) the idea would be to keep future assets and make a move using cap space.. i can think of 3 options...starts with Fontecchio+ 2 SRP to the NETS..which frees up more money.. 1 option (in no particular order).. absorb Toppin's contract..the Pacers need to save money to re-sign Turner..
2 The Grizzlies are very careful with their finances and JJJ is going to get a huge raise...Aldama is a restricted free agent and they probably won't be able to keep him...would you offer a slightly inflated 1 year contract around 20 million??
3 option sign LaRavia who doesn't have bird rights,since his opinion was rejected... do you like any?which one?
Aldama is a guy who I’ve been super high on, I would love to be able to work a sign and trade with Memphis to get him