Strategy for Future First Round Picks

[Canadafan]

3) Re-sign Schroder for the room exception . Again, he fit great here and is anyone offering more?


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How much is the room exception?

[GreekAlex]

I really like Rasheer Fleming. He’s projecting to go in the early 20s.

He’s one of the best shooting PFs with a great 3p % and tons of athleticism. I’m surprised that he’s not mocked to go in the lottery. I guess it’s because he’s a junior.

[blog_pistons]

I really like Rasheer Fleming. He’s projecting to go in the early 20s.

He’s one of the best shooting PFs with a great 3p % and tons of athleticism. I’m surprised that he’s not mocked to go in the lottery. I guess it’s because he’s a junior.

It should be a lottery. It's his third year, but he's still only 20 years old; his shooting has improved dramatically year after year.

In my top 14 of this year's draft (I have to update it because it's from last February):

1-Flagg
2-Harper
3-Bailey
4-Kasparas
5-Edgecome
6-Knueppel
7-Newell
8-Maluach
9-FLeming
10-Carter Bryant
11-Tre Jonjson
12-Collin Murray
13-Fears
14-McNeleey

[Canadafan]

3) Re-sign Schroder for the room exception . Again, he fit great here and is anyone offering more?


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How much is the room exception?

Ohhhh yes. Almost 8million. I luv your plan! That would be the dream scenario.
Give Beasley MLE worth money with our cap space.
Use Fontecchio Sasser and draft picks with remaining money in trade for Aldama. Is he good defensively? Nice 7foot stretch 4 , sounds perfect.
Then give Shröder 8mil room exception. Glorious!

Duren30 Stew18
Tobias24 Aldama24
Ausar24 Holland18 Beasley6
Ivey24 Beasley18 Cade6
Cade24 Shröder24

Luv it....

Even if you just went;
Ausar30 Holland18
Ivey24 Beasley24
Cade30 Shröder18 then I'd think Shröder would be fine with lower minutes since we're giving him a nice contract that's hopefully the full 3yrs which will make him happy. He can always get more minutes filling in if guys miss time or foul trouble or getting kicked outta games like Cade did last night

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/08/mid-level-bi-annual-projections-for-2025-26.html

So if we're nice guys, we could use our cap space to give Beasley and Shröder contracts that are each 1million above what they could get on and MLE and room exception.
Then we would only be able to upgrade Fontecchio thru trading him sasser and 2nds.
Or we operate as over the cap team and use 14mil MLE on Beasley and 5mil BAE on Shröder.
Orrrrr your scenario which is the best. Give Beasley a little over MLE money. Use rest of cap with Fontecchio Sasser and 2nds to upgrade that PF spot. Hopefully that's Aldama. And then use the $8,781,000 Room exception for Shröder. 3 yr deal. He's gotta accept that right?

[Kalamazoo317]

Tech's been playing well as of late. I think folks are giving up on him too easily.

[zeebneeb]

Tech's been playing well as of late. I think folks are giving up on him too easily.

I'm not sure its that, I think it's more of "If the upgrade to the vets we had, made the team this much better, what if we upgrade again?"

I look at players like Harris, Tek, THJ, Schroder, as placeholders.

I keep going back to this in my mind;

The team has gotten this competitive, this good, while starting THJ. While starting Harris.

I do not envy this offseason for Langdon. Every move he makes, now is going to have a clear net positive, or net negative effect on the team. The "RE"build is over. Its now building that has to take place, and any addition or subtraction, could hamstring the team for years.

I like Tek. Seems like a good guy, for sure. Imagine though, he's replaced with Harris off the bench, and Naz Reid is starting, or Aldama. That would be massive for this team.

I'm getting long winded again, but bringing in a young, legitimate starting PF, and keeping a player like Harris, off the bench, would be amazing.

[GreekAlex]

I really like Rasheer Fleming. He’s projecting to go in the early 20s.

He’s one of the best shooting PFs with a great 3p % and tons of athleticism. I’m surprised that he’s not mocked to go in the lottery. I guess it’s because he’s a junior.

It should be a lottery. It's his third year, but he's still only 20 years old; his shooting has improved dramatically year after year.

In my top 14 of this year's draft (I have to update it because it's from last February):

1-Flagg
2-Harper
3-Bailey
4-Kasparas
5-Edgecome
6-Knueppel
7-Newell
8-Maluach
9-FLeming
10-Carter Bryant
11-Tre Jonjson
12-Collin Murray
13-Fears
14-McNeleey

I wonder what the price would be to move up to get him. I understand that we have a young core already but his skill set seems like it would be the perfect addition.

When this group gets more expensive with new contracts, it will be very valuable to still have our PF of the future on a rookie scale deal.

[Canadafan]

I really like Rasheer Fleming. He’s projecting to go in the early 20s.

He’s one of the best shooting PFs with a great 3p % and tons of athleticism. I’m surprised that he’s not mocked to go in the lottery. I guess it’s because he’s a junior.

It should be a lottery. It's his third year, but he's still only 20 years old; his shooting has improved dramatically year after year.

In my top 14 of this year's draft (I have to update it because it's from last February):

1-Flagg
2-Harper
3-Bailey
4-Kasparas
5-Edgecome
6-Knueppel
7-Newell
8-Maluach
9-FLeming
10-Carter Bryant
11-Tre Jonjson
12-Collin Murray
13-Fears
14-McNeleey

I wonder what the price would be to move up to get him. I understand that we have a young core already but his skill set seems like it would be the perfect addition.

When this group gets more expensive with new contracts, it will be very valuable to still have our PF of the future on a rookie scale deal.

How would we move up? We're going to lose our 1st rounder this summer.
I guess maybe we could use the Toronto 2nd and multiple 2nds maybe?

[zeebneeb]

It should be a lottery. It's his third year, but he's still only 20 years old; his shooting has improved dramatically year after year.

In my top 14 of this year's draft (I have to update it because it's from last February):

1-Flagg
2-Harper
3-Bailey
4-Kasparas
5-Edgecome
6-Knueppel
7-Newell
8-Maluach
9-FLeming
10-Carter Bryant
11-Tre Jonjson
12-Collin Murray
13-Fears
14-McNeleey

I wonder what the price would be to move up to get him. I understand that we have a young core already but his skill set seems like it would be the perfect addition.

When this group gets more expensive with new contracts, it will be very valuable to still have our PF of the future on a rookie scale deal.

How would we move up? We're going to lose our 1st rounder this summer.
I guess maybe we could use the Toronto 2nd and multiple 2nds maybe?

This isn't a bad idea, if the team is really sold on a particular player. If memory serves(I haven't checked on picks recently as the team is doing well)the Pistons could offer up to 9 second round picks for a first.

I dont know what the exchange rate is, per draft slot though.

[GreekAlex]

It should be a lottery. It's his third year, but he's still only 20 years old; his shooting has improved dramatically year after year.

In my top 14 of this year's draft (I have to update it because it's from last February):

1-Flagg
2-Harper
3-Bailey
4-Kasparas
5-Edgecome
6-Knueppel
7-Newell
8-Maluach
9-FLeming
10-Carter Bryant
11-Tre Jonjson
12-Collin Murray
13-Fears
14-McNeleey

I wonder what the price would be to move up to get him. I understand that we have a young core already but his skill set seems like it would be the perfect addition.

When this group gets more expensive with new contracts, it will be very valuable to still have our PF of the future on a rookie scale deal.

How would we move up? We're going to lose our 1st rounder this summer.
I guess maybe we could use the Toronto 2nd and multiple 2nds maybe?

Unfortunately, I don’t think 2nds would get it done.


We couldn’t trade next years first because of the Stepien rule but we could send a lightly protected 1st in 2027. If Langdon is confident in Fleming, it’s worth the risk.

I’ve mostly seen Fleming mocked in the early 20’s range. That seems more attainable than even the late lottery.

Brooklyn has 3 picks slated in the 20’s. Maybe a deal can be struck with them.

[Kalamazoo317]

Tobias isn’t coming off the bench on his current contract

[tmorgan]

We CAN trade our 1st next year to acquire a 1st this year. We can also trade our 1st next year at any point after draft day. Including in a pre-arranged trade for someone drafted this year.

And blog_pistons, my only two major disagreements with your top 14:
1) Ace Bailey may well go third, but it’s going to be a mistake. Massively overrated prospect.
2) Tre Johnson should be, and likely will end up, a lot higher than that. I like him better than Bailey.

[GreekAlex]

We CAN trade our 1st next year to acquire a 1st this year. We can also trade our 1st next year at any point after draft day. Including in a pre-arranged trade for someone drafted this year.

And blog_pistons, my only two major disagreements with your top 14:
1) Ace Bailey may well go third, but it’s going to be a mistake. Massively overrated prospect.
2) Tre Johnson should be, and likely will end up, a lot higher than that. I like him better than Bailey.

I don’t watch a ton of college hoops outside of UofM.

Do you have any opinion on Rasheer Fleming?

I’ve only watched highlights and read over his stats but he seems like the exact PF of the future for us.

[tmorgan]

Fleming has potential. We have no realistic avenue for acquiring him unless we’re trading Ivey while his value is somewhat depressed.

[blog_pistons]

We CAN trade our 1st next year to acquire a 1st this year. We can also trade our 1st next year at any point after draft day. Including in a pre-arranged trade for someone drafted this year.

And blog_pistons, my only two major disagreements with your top 14:
1) Ace Bailey may well go third, but it’s going to be a mistake. Massively overrated prospect.
2) Tre Johnson should be, and likely will end up, a lot higher than that. I like him better than Bailey.

Yes, you're probably right, I made it in February after the tournament, I'll try to update it.

[Canadafan]

Our strategy should be to hold onto all our 1st round picks. Keep the Toronto 2nd. And use other 2nds Sasser Fontecchio to upgrade our roster. Bring most of the guys back minus probably THJr.
Hopefully we luck out in a draft and get ourselves a future star