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[the_l_train]

Makes me think Aldama more likely to stay…thought if Bane was staying, he was for sure out.

[Snakebites]

Makes me think Aldama more likely to stay…thought if Bane was staying, he was for sure out.

My knee jerk reaction was that this was a "we're rebuilding" move, but the more I do think about it I think it's just a retool/rebudget/value type move- they got an offer they couldn't refuse.

In that view it makes it more likely they keep Aldama.

[bstein14]

Per Hoopshype Rumors, after the Bane Orlando trade:

The renegotiation and extension possibility for Jaren Jackson Jr. is impacted by this trade. It decreased the Grizzlies cap space from $6.9 million to $4.5 million, lowering the overall value of a renegotiation. They could create more through trades, but certainly a situation worth monitoring

If Bane took 2 rotation players + 4 firsts and a swap, hard to imagine that we have what it takes to get Jaren…

The Grizzlies were never upper tier contenders and they’re still being priced out of keeping their core together.

The new CBA is harsh. We aren’t currently in any kind of crisis but we could be if Langdon isn’t smart with how dollars are spent.

I hope he’s up to the challenge.

Biggest mistake would be overpaying Ivey/Duren. Both are still below average starters and both should be close to MLE money IMO unless they take a big leap. 4 years $80 million would be a little over MLE but unless they show a lot I think that should be their ceiling and hopefully closer to what Stew is making.

I think Ausar is going to have the most interest of any of our upcoming RFAs the next few years I think he's more worth it to lock up a year earlier if possible.

[Snakebites]

Per Hoopshype Rumors, after the Bane Orlando trade:



If Bane took 2 rotation players + 4 firsts and a swap, hard to imagine that we have what it takes to get Jaren…

The Grizzlies were never upper tier contenders and they’re still being priced out of keeping their core together.

The new CBA is harsh. We aren’t currently in any kind of crisis but we could be if Langdon isn’t smart with how dollars are spent.

I hope he’s up to the challenge.

Biggest mistake would be overpaying Ivey/Duren. Both are still below average starters and both should be close to MLE money IMO unless they take a big leap. 4 years $80 million would be a little over MLE but unless they show a lot I think that should be their ceiling and hopefully closer to what Stew is making.

I think Ausar is going to have the most interest of any of our upcoming RFAs the next few years I think he's more worth it to lock up a year earlier if possible.

100 percent.

Keep Ivey and Duren if the price is right. Those are potential albatrosses if we misplay our hand.

[Cowology]

Per Hoopshype Rumors, after the Bane Orlando trade:



If Bane took 2 rotation players + 4 firsts and a swap, hard to imagine that we have what it takes to get Jaren…

The Grizzlies were never upper tier contenders and they’re still being priced out of keeping their core together.

The new CBA is harsh. We aren’t currently in any kind of crisis but we could be if Langdon isn’t smart with how dollars are spent.

I hope he’s up to the challenge.

Biggest mistake would be overpaying Ivey/Duren. Both are still below average starters and both should be close to MLE money IMO unless they take a big leap. 4 years $80 million would be a little over MLE but unless they show a lot I think that should be their ceiling and hopefully closer to what Stew is making.

I think Ausar is going to have the most interest of any of our upcoming RFAs the next few years I think he's more worth it to lock up a year earlier if possible.

It's always tough because as an organization you've already invested time & resources. "Losing" somebody like that, especially with no compensation feels bad so teams sorta bid against themselves. Fans then wonder why player got $$ when there was "no market". Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Again, just one of the many reasons I strongly believe we need to consolidate talent. Our lovely cap situation is going to begin spiraling quickly if we aren't prudent now.

I know this sounds dumb...but we should be stockpiling future picks now. We're going to need to keep some infusion of *cheap* talent as our current role players price themselves out of our budget. Having those rookie contracts will be critical to try and offset the heavy cost of our top-end talent.

[Invictus88]

The Grizzlies were never upper tier contenders and they’re still being priced out of keeping their core together.

The new CBA is harsh. We aren’t currently in any kind of crisis but we could be if Langdon isn’t smart with how dollars are spent.

I hope he’s up to the challenge.

Biggest mistake would be overpaying Ivey/Duren. Both are still below average starters and both should be close to MLE money IMO unless they take a big leap. 4 years $80 million would be a little over MLE but unless they show a lot I think that should be their ceiling and hopefully closer to what Stew is making.

I think Ausar is going to have the most interest of any of our upcoming RFAs the next few years I think he's more worth it to lock up a year earlier if possible.

It's always tough because as an organization you've already invested time & resources. "Losing" somebody like that, especially with no compensation feels bad so teams sorta bid against themselves. Fans then wonder why player got $$ when there was "no market". Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Again, just one of the many reasons I strongly believe we need to consolidate talent. Our lovely cap situation is going to begin spiraling quickly if we aren't prudent now.

I know this sounds dumb...but we should be stockpiling future picks now. We're going to need to keep some infusion of *cheap* talent as our current role players price themselves out of our budget. Having those rookie contracts will be critical to try and offset the heavy cost of our top-end talent.

The problem with the above is that neither Ivey nor Duren are really valuable enough to do the pick stockpiling as they are. I want to believe Ivey especially would have more value at this year's trade deadline.

[Snakebites]

Yeah unfortunately for the same reason we're hesitant to extend them, Duren and Ivey have at best compromised trade value.

I think it unlikely either is moved- so we need to hope they’re signed to deals that won’t be negative value.

[tmorgan]

One of the very best non-drafting moves Weaver made was getting Stew on his current deal. He and Monty tried him as a PF, which wasn’t all that wise, but getting him to accept a completely reasonable long-term deal was a big win.

Duren’s going to get 20 per, I’m sure of it. Ivey will get more than that unless he’s unwise enough to sign this summer before re-establishing his value. That’s one of the reasons he’s my first choice to be sent out, but yeah, I don’t think the return will be sufficient to make Langdon do it. I know we were all pleasantly surprised he shot 40% from three last year, but it was only 30 games. And his defense is still quite bad. It’s not as important as Duren’s defense being bad, but it still hurts.

A lot of big choices to make coming up.

[Mr Peanut]

Curious question - if Memphis puts JJJ on the table then what are we willing to give up for him? Tobias, Holland and a boatload of firsts?

[ducler]

Curious question - if Memphis puts JJJ on the table then what are we willing to give up for him? Tobias, Holland and a boatload of firsts?

Tobias, Ivey + picks, I'd rather keep Holland than Ivey

[Canadafan]

Curious question - if Memphis puts JJJ on the table then what are we willing to give up for him? Tobias, Holland and a boatload of firsts?

Tobias, Ivey + picks, I'd rather keep Holland than Ivey

They're saying JJJ and Morant are staying

[Canadafan]

Fontecchio Sasser and signed and traded THJR to make up the difference for Portis(would prefer Naz but thats unlikely)
I think Bucks would do that. They need some help with depth.
No 1st rounders traded though by us

[Snakebites]

Curious question - if Memphis puts JJJ on the table then what are we willing to give up for him? Tobias, Holland and a boatload of firsts?

Tobias, Ivey + picks, I'd rather keep Holland than Ivey

They're saying JJJ and Morant are staying

Yeah- they think they can retool, and they now have assets to do that- an infusion of cheap young talent around their two best players, or assets to make additional trades with.

They’re also probably hoping KCP had an off year and will be the high end role player he was in Denver.

[Crymson]

Yeah unfortunately for the same reason we're hesitant to extend them, Duren and Ivey have at best compromised trade value.

I think it unlikely either is moved- so we need to hope they’re signed to deals that won’t be negative value.

Ivey's will be significantly higher at this point, because he's positioned to provide considerably more value in the now and has a much higher potential ceiling.

[Kobe082497]

Fontecchio Sasser and signed and traded THJR to make up the difference for Portis(would prefer Naz but thats unlikely)
I think Bucks would do that. They need some help with depth.
No 1st rounders traded though by us

I don't think that makes the Bucks better.

[the_l_train]

Fontecchio Sasser and signed and traded THJR to make up the difference for Portis(would prefer Naz but thats unlikely)
I think Bucks would do that. They need some help with depth.
No 1st rounders traded though by us

I don't think that makes the Bucks better.

Agreed, nothing about this is intriguing for them. Those 3 players are all questionable rotation guys.

[Canadafan]

Fontecchio Sasser and signed and traded THJR to make up the difference for Portis(would prefer Naz but thats unlikely)
I think Bucks would do that. They need some help with depth.
No 1st rounders traded though by us

I don't think that makes the Bucks better.

Agreed, nothing about this is intriguing for them. Those 3 players are all questionable rotation guys.

This is under the assumption that Portis wants to leave. And we want to pay him. Bucks would be wise to get something for him

[Crymson]

This is under the assumption that Portis wants to leave. And we want to pay him. Bucks would be wise to get something for him

Who are you getting rid of to make space for Portis?

[DetroitSho]

This is under the assumption that Portis wants to leave. And we want to pay him. Bucks would be wise to get something for him

Who are you getting rid of to make space for Portis?

Literally, the 3 guys mentioned.

Although I don't believe THJ on a SnT can be traded with other players.

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[Crymson]

Literally, the 3 guys mentioned.
Although I don't believe THJ on a SnT can be traded with other players.

None of those three would be in the rotation next season if Beasley and Schroder return. The Pistons would need to be rid of a rotation player -- whether one of those two or someone under contract -- in order to open minutes for Portis (or anyone else).

Salaries can be aggregated in a S&T.