I'd HATE to be Joe right now!!

[retrolenny]

It looks as though our outcasts are showing they belong in this league. They are showing energy and making this Det team incredibly entertaining to watch. If we're judging the games on a day to day basis then we are looking to throw Knight, Moose, & Max under the bus. I am no GM but I think Moose is beginning to show irreconcilable flaws in his game and although he is one of my favorite Pistons, this is not a popularity contest and his value is quite high. I might make the decision to trade him for an upgrade. I know that Aldridge is on the market.. I would trade Moose & Maggs for Aldridge +1. They'd be getting back a quality PF and saving a whole bunch in salary to shed a player already on the block.

While some of you believe that Tay is slowing down the front unit, I disagree.. I think Prince has been so smart and solid this year. He's our one true veteran on the team and I don't see a necessity to trade him unless we are getting a younger upgrade at SF to replace him. Smith or Gay.

Max has shown that he is just getting in the way with his solid play. His trade value is high because he is serviceable and expiring. He's got to be high on Dumars list to trade so AD can start.

Knight is still VERY young and needs to mature as a player. Jury is still out but if I'm Joe I would include him in a trade for a E. Gordon or someone with a little more experience. Then again, I'm also very open to keeping him and seeing what kind of player he can turn into.

Singler has been very solid for a rookie. He plays like he's been in the NBA for years. Yes he's had a few rough games and true he'll never be an allstar, but he's a solid glue guy and his head is screwed on right. Trade or keep... Your guess is as good as mine.

Stuck has shown again that he is our leader and needs to be our starting point guard. I LOVE Stucks game and would only consider trading him for a talent like E. Gordon.

Bynum is still a ball hog. He distributes the ball only when the assist can make the ESPN highlight reel (Ally Oop to AD). If he starting using a team first approach then he would be highly valuable. Dumars wanted AI, he's got a similar player in Bynum. He just doesn't play D as well, but he sure is selfish and can take over a game.

CV was paid big bucks to be our starting PF. It failed miserably. It appears as though we are finally seeing him for what he is. A solid stretch 4 off the bench.. CV doesn't expire until 2014 but I wouldn't toss him to the curb either. If he continues to play the way he has been then he might earn the ability to stay with the Pistons and earn a more acceptable salary. $4-5mm/yr should do it.

Daye is proving that he has a role in the NBA. He's providing energy and some pretty good play. He'd be dirt cheap to sign right now. Perhaps he's outstayed his welcome but I certainly wouldn't close the door on him just yet, especially with how inexpensive he would be to re-sign.

Drummond... OUR FREAKING FUTURE... BUILD AROUND HIM AND START DESIGNING PLAYS FOR THE MAN. HE'S A BEAST!!!

Bottom line, Joe has his work cut out for him and Frank needs to make the following changes ASAP!!

Stuck/Bynum
Singler/Knight
Prince/Daye
Moose/CV/Daye
Drummond/Moose/Max

[princeofpalace]

I agree he should Max/Bynum while their stock is high. I think the Lakers would make a good trading partner, they are a team that really needs to win some games and they have zero PG depth and need a good 3rd bigman.

Maxiel/Bynum for Hill/Morris works for both teams I think. Detroit gets a pair of young prospects and Lakers get some productive veterans who also happen to be expiring contracts.

Lakers become

Nash/Bynum
Kobe/Meeks
Artest/Jamison/Ebanks
Gasol/Maxiel
Howard/Sacre

Pistons become

Knight/Morris
Singler/Stuckey
Prince/Daye
Monroe/CV
Drummond/Hill

[Goldtop]

Its actually a good problem to have for Joe. All his reserves are becoming valuable trade assets. And if he starts to have doubts about his young starters, they all have great trade value too.

Essentially, he's got a roster full of trade assets to work with right now. Plus a ton of capspace, and a young BEAST Center to build around.

Its actually a dream scenario for a GM rebuilding a team.

[OneBadMutha]

If Aldridge is really on the market, I trade anyone aside from Drummond. Would even package both Knight and Moose. Aldridge will be good for awhile and the combo of him and Drummond is a true complimentary front court that could dominate. I like Knight...but his talent is dime a dozen. Moose just doesn't feel like the best compliment at the 4. Believe Moose is a long term center...especially as he gets stronger yet even less athletic.

I actually like a Stuckey, Aldridge, and Drummond combo...especially if Detroit gets a top notch wing player in the draft.

[Spider156]

Actually I'd LOVE to be Joe right now. They're making themselves that much easier to trade. I'm feeling a significant trade brewing up in that office of his. I can't wait to see what player we're going to get. I feel like Prince is the one going along with Stuckey. I'm expecting a trade that'll add a starting player to our lineup.

[wiff]

How's it going?

Gonzaga fan and Eastern Washington University fan here. Which means I like Daye and Stuckey. I can't really say I'm a huge fan of Daye because his body langue pisses me off but I still wish the best for the kid. Personally I think he should have stayed another year at Gonzaga, I didn't really he think he was ready for the league mentally or physically. Also I'm the guy who keeps an eye on High school talent and watches highlight on Youtube for hours. I caught wind of Andre Drummond going into his senior year I though he was going to kill it at UConn then everything seemed to go wrong there.

Anyway It's nice to see that Drummond is producing for you guys(sooooo much potential) and I think a front court with him and Monroe in two or three years is going to be one of the leagues best. Not sure if Daye is going to be the guy starting in that front line with them. I can see Austin as a 6th man in the league. Especially with his inclination to pulling the trigger on his jumper, but the kid does have talent.

I see your team becoming very good in the next couple of years, of course a trade or two could speed that up quite a bit. But your team definitely has talent on the roster. Personally I'd stay as far away from Cousins as possible. He's a coach killer and a cancer. That kid needs a strong veteran presence in the locker room to keep him in check and sorry but Charlie V isn't going to cut it.

I'd try to package a couple of expirings to land a solid shooting guard. Your team has a ton of 6'9" guys or better. Prince might be a decent piece to trade to a contending team. Not sure if you have faith in Singler and Daye splitting minutes at the sf spot?

Anyway I like your teams future, will be interesting to see then in two years.

[Goldtop]

I think Aldridge would be a perfect fit next to Drummond, but there's too big of an age difference there for me.

Aldridge is 27 and Dre only 19. When Drummond is entering his prime, Aldridge will be at the end of his. We need someone thats like 22-24 max in age I think.

The only big man I'd trade Monroe for is Cousins. Otherwise, I'd rather just keep Moose.

[OneBadMutha]

I don't have any issues w/ the age gap. There's no guarantee that Drummond doesn't do what 90% of Stars do in lesser markets do once he hits prime...which is push his way to a big market. Both Brooklyn and Knicks will be pushing for him to come back that way in a couple years. That's why if he's the real deal, Pistons can't have a long drawn out plan to get relevant.

Aldridge is 27 but his style of game will allow him to be very effective for another 7 or 8 years easily. That's plenty of time to eventually find someone else along the way to step in.

[Han Solo]

I don't have any issues w/ the age gap. There's no guarantee that Drummond doesn't do what 90% of Stars do in lesser markets do once he hits prime...which is push his way to a big market. Both Brooklyn and Knicks will be pushing for him to come back that way in a couple years. That's why if he's the real deal, Pistons can't have a long drawn out plan to get relevant.

Aldridge is 27 but his style of game will allow him to be very effective for another 7 or 8 years easily. That's plenty of time to eventually find someone else along the way to step in.

[Han Solo]

AUBURN HILLS -- Detroit Pistons point guard Will Bynum said today that he thinks everyone would benefit by restoring Rodney Stuckey to a starting role and letting Kyle Singler play primarily with the reserves.

The caveat is that

Bynum said Stuckey should play point guard, allowing current starting point guard Brandon Knight to move to shooting guard.

Head coach Lawrence Frank said such changes always are under consideration but stopped short of an endorsement.

"I'd like to see Rodney starting at the point and Kyle coming off with us," Bynum said after today's practice. "It'd probably be much better, different looks, bring a different momentum by going into the game with two different groups, and it would be hard to deal with from other teams. And then BK (Knight) could just score."

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/ ... um=twitter

Stuckey should be our starting PG.

[princeofpalace]

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Very self serving for Bynum. If Stuckey goes back to the starting lineup that makes Bynum the primary backup at PG. We know Stuckey is not a PG, we have seen him fail at the position year after year.

Id rather develop Knight at the position than go with a guy whose not part of our core. If we move Knight to more of an off guard role it should be in favor of an actual passing PG and not a guy like Stuckey who runs into defenders yelling "hey" and passes it out when he gets in trouble. There are not enough shooters in the starting lineup for Stuckey to look as adequate as he does with the bench.

What I would suggest is to start Daye at the 2 spot since he provides more of an offensive punch than Singler, also Drummond needs to start, and let CV be the first big off the bench to help spread the offense while Knight is in the game. Lets see what Knight looks like with shooters to bail him out. There are just other rotation moves we should try first before demoting our sophomore PG.

[kurtis48239]

I have been saying that knight should slide over to sg,when I see knight it just dosent look like a good fit for him at pg and I understand hes young and getting used to it but it reminds me of stuck with better shooting and I dont want to wait 5 years until we figure it out .Iam telling you that if we move knight to sg he would blossom and then trade for a legit pg and then trade/draft a sm and watch this team sky rocket.

[MrBigShot]

I'm not so sure Knight would be able to guard opposing 2guards and to be quite honest, he's not even that great of a scorer to begin with. I'd rather pursue a different SG rather than move him to SG.

[OneBadMutha]

I still think having a "true point guard" is super over-blown. Unless you're true point guard is a superstar, I'd rather have an efficient scoring guard play the 1 than a traditional table setter.

It's more about playing players to their strengths, having skill-sets that compliment each other, and developing chemistry.

Stuckey's strength is playing on the ball regardless of the position. Knight's strength is his shooting. Stuckey doesn't need to be a true point guard to start and handle the majority of the ball handling duties. He's just gotta be efficient and unselfish.

...and at this point, I think it's too early to determine who's a definite piece of the future (outside of Drummond). Just play the best players to their strengths. Even if it doesn't equate to that player being a starter on the next Pistons team to win 50 games, it'll lead to better player values which can lead to better trades.

Since Knight's first scouting report, he alway sounded like a longer version of Jason Terry. There's nothing wrong with that if he's playing to his strengths.

That's what I always liked about Carlisle. He was a coach who'd win w/ players w/ major deficiencies by figuring out how to play to their strengths rather than force square pegs in round holes. Terry was a loser before he played for Carlisle. Chancy, Rip, and Ben were too.

Time to stop trying to make Knight into Kidd-lite.

[starfire81]

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Very self serving for Bynum. If Stuckey goes back to the starting lineup that makes Bynum the primary backup at PG. We know Stuckey is not a PG, we have seen him fail at the position year after year.

Id rather develop Knight at the position than go with a guy whose not part of our core. If we move Knight to more of an off guard role it should be in favor of an actual passing PG and not a guy like Stuckey who runs into defenders yelling "hey" and passes it out when he gets in trouble. There are not enough shooters in the starting lineup for Stuckey to look as adequate as he does with the bench.

What I would suggest is to start Daye at the 2 spot since he provides more of an offensive punch than Singler, also Drummond needs to start, and let CV be the first big off the bench to help spread the offense while Knight is in the game. Lets see what Knight looks like with shooters to bail him out. There are just other rotation moves we should try first before demoting our sophomore PG.

Agreed. He also wants to keep Andre with him on the bench - again benefitting him and continuing to hang the starters out to dry with should be bench guy Max starting with them.

[retrolenny]

Actually I'd LOVE to be Joe right now. They're making themselves that much easier to trade. I'm feeling a significant trade brewing up in that office of his. I can't wait to see what player we're going to get. I feel like Prince is the one going along with Stuckey. I'm expecting a trade that'll add a starting player to our lineup.

I hope you're right but I really don't want to see Stuck go unless it's for a significant upgrade at PG!!