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Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST

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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#281 » by menten » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:40 am

vege wrote:
pistontr wrote:you dont need a true PG to be successfull in todays NBA. see fisher (bum), chalmers (bum), westbrook (combo)


so we need braynt, lebron-wade or durant. i agree


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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#282 » by Goldtop » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:40 am

Crazy stat of the night.

Singler who was atrocious somehow finished +14, the highest +/- of any player on both teams lol. Next highest in the game was Bynum at +8.

Meanwhile Knight, who was by far the player of the game, somehow finshed with -5. :lol:
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Post#283 » by Maker_84 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:41 am

Brandon Knight showed in this game he can be an all star PG
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#284 » by Goldtop » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:46 am

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Goldtop wrote:This game made a great case for Knight at SG.

He looked like Ray Allen circa '08. And Bynum looked like Rondo.

Knight: 31 pts on 12-16 FG. ZERO asts

Bynum: 12 asts, 2 TOs.

Knight looks like he could be a heck of a SG, if we elect to move him there. Not only his shooting ability, but he's developing into one of the peskier perimeter defenders in the league.

They finally put him on Redick at the end and JJ airballed his last 3.


Knight got a total of 3 points off of a Bynum drive and kick. The other 3 was from a broken play. Meanwhile, he scored 25 by being aggressive and looking for his shot with ball in his hands at the PG position. He looked like a scoring PG to me. Bynum is wildly inconsistent, plays terrible defense, and is a ball hog who tries to play hero ball at the worst possible time.


Just because Knight scored with the ball in his hands, and happened to be playing the PG postion doesn't mean he's a scoring PG.

SG's take over and create their own shots too. To me Knights a lot closer to the mold of a Ray Allen than a Westbrook or Rose.

I really don't know why ppl insist that he has to be a PG offensively. As if PG is such a hard position to fill. If anything, SG is the harder position to find talent at today. There's tons of great PGs in the league today. Not that great SGs.
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#285 » by detroitKG » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:49 am

Best part of all this arguing is...It doesn't even matter what we think... :lol:
Knight will play whatever position the coach and the franchise see him as going forward.
So all this talk is really pointless. Great game offensively for Knight.
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#286 » by DetroitPistons » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:55 am

Goldtop wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:
Goldtop wrote:This game made a great case for Knight at SG.

He looked like Ray Allen circa '08. And Bynum looked like Rondo.

Knight: 31 pts on 12-16 FG. ZERO asts

Bynum: 12 asts, 2 TOs.

Knight looks like he could be a heck of a SG, if we elect to move him there. Not only his shooting ability, but he's developing into one of the peskier perimeter defenders in the league.

They finally put him on Redick at the end and JJ airballed his last 3.


Knight got a total of 3 points off of a Bynum drive and kick. The other 3 was from a broken play. Meanwhile, he scored 25 by being aggressive and looking for his shot with ball in his hands at the PG position. He looked like a scoring PG to me. Bynum is wildly inconsistent, plays terrible defense, and is a ball hog who tries to play hero ball at the worst possible time.


Just because Knight scored with the ball in his hands, and happened to be playing the PG postion doesn't mean he's a scoring PG.

SG's take over and create their own shots too. To me Knights a lot closer to the mold of a Ray Allen than a Westbrook or Rose.

I really don't know why ppl insist that he has to be a PG offensively. As if PG is such a hard position to fill. If anything, SG is the harder position to find talent at today. There's tons of great PGs in the league today. Not that great SGs.


I really can't believe your saying that. Again, Knight hit one 3 off of Bynum's penetration and the other 3 was from a broken play. 25 of his points were from him attacking with the ball in his hands and hitting the midrange jumper or taking it all the way. He looked WAY more like a Westbrook than a Ray Allen (obviously not nearly as talented). Your just trying to find any scrap of evidence to support the use of him as a SG. Also, we have seen Knight disappear in the past when he is off the ball. Taking the ball out of his hands would be foolish. There is no reason to do it, especially since he is really playing great at the moment from the PG spot.
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Post#287 » by Goldtop » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:10 am

DetroitPistons wrote:I really can't believe your saying that. Again, Knight hit one 3 off of Bynum's penetration and the other 3 was from a broken play. 25 of his points were from him attacking with the ball in his hands and hitting the midrange jumper or taking it all the way. He looked WAY more like a Westbrook than a Ray Allen (obviously not nearly as talented). Your just trying to find any scrap of evidence to support the use of him as a SG. Also, we have seen Knight disappear in the past when he is off the ball. Taking the ball out of his hands would be foolish. There is no reason to do it, especially since he is really playing great at the moment from the PG spot.


I don't know what to tell you. He looks more like a SG to me. I don't have to provide any evidence to you for that to be my opinion.

SGs score with the ball in their hands too. You don't have to be completely off the ball to play SG. I never said that he had to do that, like he can only be a spot up shooter. But he's rarely shown the ability to run the offense AND score in the same game, which is kind of a prequisite to being a scoring PG.
Its always "either or" with Knight, and imo his better strength is scoring/shooting, not running offenses. We are better when he's scoring/shooting well. The games he's had 7 asts, 2 TOs and only 10 pts, weren;t resulting in wins early in the year. So it only makes sense that I see SG as his best position as of now.

Of course he's very young and could develop the ability to do both score and run the offense, but if we're just talking right now, he's better suited at SG to me.

0 asts and 3 TOs, its hard to say he played a great PG game tonight. 12-16 FG and 31 pts - thats a SG game.
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#288 » by DetroitPistons » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:18 am

Goldtop wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:I really can't believe your saying that. Again, Knight hit one 3 off of Bynum's penetration and the other 3 was from a broken play. 25 of his points were from him attacking with the ball in his hands and hitting the midrange jumper or taking it all the way. He looked WAY more like a Westbrook than a Ray Allen (obviously not nearly as talented). Your just trying to find any scrap of evidence to support the use of him as a SG. Also, we have seen Knight disappear in the past when he is off the ball. Taking the ball out of his hands would be foolish. There is no reason to do it, especially since he is really playing great at the moment from the PG spot.


I don't know what to tell you. He looks more like a SG to me. I don't have to provide any evidence to you for that to be my opinion.

SGs score with the ball in their hands too. You don't have to be completely off the ball to play SG. I never said that he had to do that, like he can only be a spot up shooter. But he's rarely shown the ability to run the offense AND score in the same game, which is kind of a prequisite to being a scoring PG.
Its always "either or" with Knight, and imo his better strength is scoring/shooting, not running offenses. We are better when he's scoring/shooting well. The games he's had 7 asts, 2 TOs and only 10 pts, weren;t resulting in wins early in the year. So it only makes sense that I see SG as his best position as of now.

Of course he's very young and could develop the ability to do both score and run the offense, but if we're just talking right now, he's better suited at SG to me.

0 asts and 3 TOs, its hard to say he played a great PG game tonight. 12-16 FG and 31 pts - thats a SG game.


SG's can score with the ball, true, but being able to play off the ball is more important. Knight hasn't shown that ability. I thought he ran the offense just fine today. Our offensive is very equal opportunity and set up so that no one dominates the ball. Knight scoring is part of running the offense too. People make it sound like he is a ball hog who dribbles the air out of the ball. If that was the case then you would have a good argument but that's not how it is. You can look at the stat sheet and I'll look at the game. I see a PG who is aggressive scoring the ball just like a Rose, Westbrook, or Irving does but we can just agree to disagree.
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#289 » by Kilo » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:18 am

What was with Drummond tonight - just an off night where he couldn't get his head into the game?
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#290 » by Jodi » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:49 am

Good win Pistons!! Knight and Monroe went off...Someone needs to tell Drummond to leave those females alone and stay focused on basketball because he played awful tonight...
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#291 » by Dirtgrain » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:32 am

Vucevic has had some nice games recently. Where do you think he ranks as a center?
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Re: Game 44: Pistons @ Magic 6PM EST 

Post#292 » by tru2dagame » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:15 pm

menten wrote:
vege wrote:Knight is not even close to be a NBA caliber PG

you dont need a true PG to be successfull in todays NBA. see fisher (bum), chalmers (bum), westbrook (combo)



True but those combo guards played/plays with superstars that are able to compensate for their short comings as pg's. There are no stars on our team and if Joe would just draft or trade for a true pg, we can stop having to wait 5 to 6 years for one to possibly develop. IJS...

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