What happened to Rodney Stuckey?

Blkbrd671 · Post #21 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:38 am

Stuckey thrives with the ball in his hands and when there isn't any pressure on him to carry a team. He also never developed a jump shot which allows teams to play his drive a lot better. i think at this point his ceiling is a 6th man on a contender. which is where he needs to go

DetroitDon15 · Post #22 » by **DetroitDon15** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:03 pm

He's a 2 guard who needs the ball in his hands. He's a slasher and lacks 3 point range. If he was in the 6'6" to 6'8" range, I think he'd be a very good small forward. I agree that he has checked out on this team. I'm 100% sure he is traded this offseason. I think it is time to move on from the Stuckey, Maxiell, and Bynum era here.

OneBadMutha · Post #23 » by **OneBadMutha** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:14 pm

He's a decent player with the ball in his hands and a good defender when he's motivated. Lacks intangibles and basketball IQ. Would be a good 6th man on a team that allows him to play on ball. He was good last year and was playing well when he first went to the bench. Then his coach told him if he doesn't learn to play off the ball, he's not playing. So he's playing...but playing to his weaknesses. That's what happened.

If he goes somewhere and is allowed to have the freedom on the ball that Bynum currently gets, he could be a 6th man candidate. I still believe he has value but is terribly managed here.

Piston Pete · Post #24 » by **Piston Pete** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:26 pm

OneBadMutha wrote: I still believe he has value but is terribly managed here.

Which happens much too frequently around here for my liking.

BadMofoPimp · Post #25 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:40 pm

Stuckey proved the other night that he can still be a solid 15-20ppg scorer that can play decent team ball. It is just Frank has no defined role for Stuck and he is suffering from not knowing what his role will be night in and night out.

My prediciton: Frank is on his way out after the season.

Manocad · Post #26 » by **Manocad** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:24 pm

DetroitDon15 wrote: I think it is time to move on from the Stuckey, Maxiell, and Bynum era here.

Absolutely. I'm completely done with all three.

StickAndMove · Post #27 » by **StickAndMove** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:01 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:A quick-look ranking of 15th picks from the 90s and 00s:

1. Steve Nash (1996)
2. Al Jefferson (2004)
3. Matt Harpring (1998)
4. Rodney Stuckey (2007)
5. Brent Barry (1995)
6. Kelvin Cato (1997)
7. Anthony Peeler (1992)
8. Robin Lopez (2008)
9. Eric Piatkowski (1994)
10. Bostjan Nachbar (2002)
11. Anthony Avent (1991)
12. Jason Collier (2000)
13. Steven Hunter (2001)
14. Reece Gaines (2003)
15. Cedric Simmons (2006)
16. Dave Jamerson (1990)
17. Antoine Wright (2005)
18. Doug Edwards (1993)
19. Frederic Weis (1999)
20 Austin Daye (2009)

Wow I'm glad you posted that. I always wanted to be rid of Stuckey because I hated the way the Pistons were handling him. To me, I always saw his ceiling as a sixth man, and felt that there was a better chance of him developing into a role player than a starter. His versatility is useful and he can backup both guard positions. But he cannot start because he is too small to be a starting SG, and doesn't have the court vision, mentality, passing skills, etc. to be a starting PG.

Anyway, turns out Stuckey was a good value pick in the draft. I truly feel the biggest reason Stuckey has regressed is because Dumars fell in love with him and continued to put him in positions and give him roles he can't handle. I wish someone would've shown him this list, maybe he would've checked his expectations and came back to reality a bit.

In a nutshell, Dumars screwed up Stuckey. He gave him the starting job and looked to him to be the franchise player. This caused Rodney to continually find himself in situations where he was overmatched or simply incapable. He was inevitably going to fail much more often than he succeeded, and I believe that further compounded the issues by negatively impacting his mental fortitude.

Post #28 » by **Timmaytime** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:06 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-QItkKD7c

srt4b · Post #29 » by **srt4b** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:32 am

Timmaytime wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-QItkKD7c

Exactly why I made this thread.

Post #30 » by **Cowology** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:46 am

Never developed a consistent J.

He's still a decent rotation player if given the right situation, but as many other have stated he's most effective with the ball in his hands which severely limits his usefulness.

Post #31 » by **Snakebites** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:59 am

I remember being really, really, pissed when we picked him, but I can't say anything about it because the alternatives I was interested in have panned out even more poorly.

Part of the reason Billups was traded while Rip was extended was because we believed Stuckey was going to ultimately step up. It wasn't the WHOLE reason, but it was certainly a stated reason at the time.

Bottom line is that mid first rounders more often than not go bust. I think the mistake that was made wasn't picking him, it was investing so much both financially and in terms of our strategy into the notion that he was going to develop into a reliable starting guard.

Blkbrd671 · Post #32 » by **Blkbrd671** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:05 am

Snakebites wrote:I remember being really, really, pissed when we picked him, but I can't say anything about it because the alternatives I was interested in have panned out even more poorly.

Part of the reason Billups was traded while Rip was extended was because we believed Stuckey was going to ultimately step up. It wasn't the WHOLE reason, but it was certainly a stated reason at the time.

Bottom line is that mid first rounders more often than not go bust. I think the mistake that was made wasn't picking him, it was investing so much both financially and in terms of our strategy into the notion that he was going to develop into a reliable starting guard.

Perfect post, i remember when the trade was made i was pissed becaues for the first time in a while, i felt we had a legitimate threat off the bench. that could take us past the ECF.

srt4b · Post #33 » by **srt4b** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:11 am

Snakebites wrote:I think the mistake that was made wasn't picking him, it was investing so much both financially and in terms of our strategy into the notion that he was going to develop into a reliable starting guard.

Pretty much sums it up aka: Blame Joe D.

mercury · Post #34 » by **mercury** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:22 am

A lot of us were seeing pie in the sky after he did well in the Boston playoff series... actually didn't blame Joe after trading CB at the time.

starfire81 · Post #35 » by **starfire81** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:29 am

^I checked out immediately after that trade. Stuckey has never struck me as someone who would be special in this league, at least not so special as to expect him to lead a veteran team anywhere, especially when part of the deal was to trade the former Finals MVP. He was handed everything on a silver platter from the day he was drafted and developed an unfounded sense of entitlement. He's a one-dimensional bum.

Blkbrd671 · Post #36 » by **Blkbrd671** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:37 am

starfire81 wrote:^I checked out immediately after that trade. Stuckey has never struck me as someone who would be special in this league, at least not so special as to expect him to lead a veteran team anywhere, especially when part of the deal was to trade the former Finals MVP. He was handed everything on a silver platter from the day he was drafted and developed an unfounded sense of entitlement. He's a one-dimensional bum.

We basically got matt casseled, but instead of trading Matt we traded brady! ffffff

dan2314 · Post #37 » by **dan2314** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:05 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Who knows, maybe Stuckey will play so well this next couple months and he can used at the draft to move up.

in which case everyone would be calling to 'keep him because he is starting to get things together'.

Blkbrd671 · Post #38 » by **Blkbrd671** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:10 am

dan2314 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:Who knows, maybe Stuckey will play so well this next couple months and he can used at the draft to move up.

in which case everyone would be calling to 'keep him because he is starting to get things together'.

damit, he's figured it out

BadMofoPimp · Post #39 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:57 pm

I have no problem with Stuckey. He was the 15th pick in the draft. He has done just about anything for this franchise despite not being the All-Star starter everyone expects him to be. He plays 10 minutes one night, then 35 minutes the next. He plays PG, SG, SF, Combo, Towel Boy and Center! He does whatever is asked even though it is not to his strengths. Still, people expect a superstar. I think he has earned his paychecks over the years and has a been a great value for a mid round pick. Unfortunately, at this juncture, I still think he would be a better fit on another team.

StickAndMove · Post #40 » by **StickAndMove** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 3:47 pm

This guy's given us problems with at least a couple different coaches now. He does seem to play hard most of the time but we are paying him $8.5M and he isn't good enough to start. How is that earning his paycheck? Just because the Pistons regularly deal with the worst contracts in the league thanks to our genius GM, doesn't mean that he's actually earning his keep. He is giving us better value than BG did, or Maggette and Villanueva are. But you can say that about 99% of players in the NBA.