Kareem

[Goldtop]

KAJ just is a differant person from a differant time that is so long removed that we just cant understand.

After reading this it reminded me just how old he must be, but I had to look it up for the exact age.

65!

For some reason I didn't realize he was that old, even though I knew played until he was 40 and reitred in the 80s. His age alone would be the reason Joe would never hire him, because even if he was successful, 2-3 yrs from now he'd be searching for a new coach again.

[Cowology]

Definitely a reason he's gone this long without an opportunity. His reclusive arrogance burned a lot of bridges and earned him a reputation. I'd absolutely take him as a bigman coach if the funding was there, but regardless of his bball IQ he's not much of a leader and I don't particularly want him as our coach. You can equate him to Laimbeer all you want, but Lamb has a better resume and relationship with the club and it's not exactly shocking he hasn't been given an opportunity yet either. But at least he was willing to try and work his way up.

[Goldtop]

^Laimbeer did eventually give in and take an assistant job, but for a long time he acted like it was beneath him just like Kareem. Both rub ppl the wrong way I guess, as to why no one will hire them. Laimbeer probably more for things he did as a player, whereas Kareem for mostly stuff after retirement. But I agree though Laimbeer deserves a chance more than Kareem.

[Cowology]

^Laimbeer did eventually give in and take an assistant job, but for a long time he acted like it was beneath him just like Kareem. Both rub ppl the wrong way I guess, as to why no one will hire them. Laimbeer probably more for things he did as a player, whereas Kareem for mostly stuff after retirement. But I agree though Laimbeer deserves a chance more than Kareem.

There are still only a handful of teams around the league who would even consider taking Lamb on for just that reason. They plain don't like him. And while his antics carried in the WNBA (as they likely would at the collegiate level) there is a big question as to whether he could effectively navigate NBA ego's. Pro's don't respond well to bullying unless you have HoF type credentials and it still takes a special type of athlete.

Laimbeer may be an ass but at least he is a vocal, take charge ass.

[Navas]

Kareem is an amazing player that seems to never get his due. Not sure why.

Ever see Airplane? That little boy sums up why KAJ doesn't get his due among basketball guys. He didn't try. Didn't try when he was in Milwaukee, essentially quit on them, didn't try when he was in LA until he got Magic Johnson. Alienated teammates when he was in Milwaukee as he didn't like playing there. Teammates in LA felt uncomfortable playing with him.

He was one of the most talented players playing in one of the worst decades for basketball and he did nothing to make himself a proper great. I have him as a great player from 4th to 7th, but not number one for a reason.

To sum it up, Kareem had a great career but it was also disappointing.

Simply, I don't want Kareem near the Pistons.

Laimbeer may be an ass but at least he is a vocal, take charge ass.

Everyone in the Pistons org will tell you that Laimbeer is an ass, our ass but still. The guy nearly ran me over when he was coaching the Shock.

Rick Mahorn on the other hand, for his rep, is one of the nicest and funniest people I've ever met. Conversations with him always have me laughing.