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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#41 » by theBigLip » Mon Apr 1, 2013 4:56 pm

Passing PG/Shooter/Shooter/Monroe/Drummond; should be the blueprint we follow for success.


Not sure how we fill those first three spots, especially with the free agents available this year, but it certainly seems like the logical strategy. Historically in the NBA the team that receives the best player in a trade wins, but that has changed lately (Melo to Knicks). We should always listen to offers, but not sure if we'd get what we need in return for Monroe. Best to just use our cap space and get some top quality players to fill 1-3.
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#42 » by Piston Pete » Mon Apr 1, 2013 5:10 pm

Another blueprint could be:

Combo PG (a guy that can average around 5-6 assists per and shoot from the outside)
Combo SG (a guy that can average around 4-5 assists per and shoot from the outside)
SF that can shoot and play D
Monroe
Drummond


....in this scenario, Knight fits. And the above scenario would promote running the offense through the PG, SG, and likely Monroe out of the high post. The benefit to that is all guys should feel acclimated into the web and flow of the game at all times, and we should have good all-around ball movement. And I don't think finding guys at SG and SF should be too difficult.
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#43 » by Jodi » Mon Apr 1, 2013 5:26 pm

^Marcus Smart fits your blueprint...He just needs to get his 3-pointer together...
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#44 » by Snakebites » Mon Apr 1, 2013 5:31 pm

I'm far too lazy to put up a full writeup of my plan, but I will confess that I'm not really in favor of trading Moose, even though its tempting given his value and the fact that we have another great young big man.
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#45 » by Piston Pete » Mon Apr 1, 2013 8:27 pm

Jodi wrote:^Marcus Smart fits your blueprint...He just needs to get his 3-pointer together...


Not a Smart fan -- don't think he can improve his range enough to make it work.

McLemore could fit - Oladipo too.

Shabazz is a scorer, but not much of a play-maker yet. That's something he could improve on with experience - moreso than Smart and his J, IMO. If we got Shabazz, it would e nice to get a playmaking SF to pair with him, like Saric.

Would love to trade for a mid-1st.

McLemore / GRIII
Oladipo / GRIII

or

Shabazz / Saric
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#46 » by MrBigShot » Mon Apr 1, 2013 9:35 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:During Aldridge's 3rd year in the NBA, he didn't rebound well, didn't play great defense, or score particularly efficiently. Now he's a "can't miss guy." Moose, a year younger than Aldridge was in his 3rd year BTW has somehow plateaued. Give me a break.


That was due to the focus on Brandon Roy. Their 4th quarter offense was basically give the ball to Roy and get the hell out of the way...

For that reason, LMA was more of a mid range jump shooter and when Roy went down, he became the 1st option and posted up far more often. In a way, Roy going down gave LMA the opportunity to take a bigger role.

Moose doesn't have someone like that holding him back, and is not as athletic or skilled as LMA, nor does he have a consistent mid range J which LMA had since day 1.

I guess we'll see...I think on a team where there were other actual offensive threats, Moose would thrive because he usually does well when its just one on one in the post...
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#47 » by princeofpalace » Tue Apr 2, 2013 10:46 am

MrBigShot wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:During Aldridge's 3rd year in the NBA, he didn't rebound well, didn't play great defense, or score particularly efficiently. Now he's a "can't miss guy." Moose, a year younger than Aldridge was in his 3rd year BTW has somehow plateaued. Give me a break.


That was due to the focus on Brandon Roy. Their 4th quarter offense was basically give the ball to Roy and get the hell out of the way...

For that reason, LMA was more of a mid range jump shooter and when Roy went down, he became the 1st option and posted up far more often. In a way, Roy going down gave LMA the opportunity to take a bigger role.

Moose doesn't have someone like that holding him back, and is not as athletic or skilled as LMA, nor does he have a consistent mid range J which LMA had since day 1.

I guess we'll see...I think on a team where there were other actual offensive threats, Moose would thrive because he usually does well when its just one on one in the post...


How exactly was Roy responsible for Aldridge's inability to rebound or play defense? Aldridge got better over time, as most young players do.
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#48 » by Pharaoh » Tue Apr 2, 2013 1:20 pm

Instead of LMA can I have Batum on this squad?

Then we'll see how good Monroe and Knight are...

we'd finally have a wing capable of... anything really!

I love the fact people can pass judgement on Monroe and Knight as if they've played on a legit team in the last 2 seasons!

I don't think people realise just how bad we are as a team.

Drummond = beast as a rookie...

Slava? Done nothing

Monroe = All Star calibre...

CV-DNP... the DNP is there for a reason

Jerebko... done nothing all season

Singler... over played cause our coach is a moron

Middleton... has potential

Stuckey... do I have to type it?

English... has potential

Knight... learning the toughest position in the NBA on this craptacular team

Calderon... brought in to help Knight deal with his craptacular team mates

Maxiell, Maggette and Bynum can't even bring it when their contracts are on the line - which tells you the level of talent/heart they have!

Joe better not **** this up... this off-season is all we have!
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#49 » by MrBigShot » Tue Apr 2, 2013 5:36 pm

princeofpalace wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:During Aldridge's 3rd year in the NBA, he didn't rebound well, didn't play great defense, or score particularly efficiently. Now he's a "can't miss guy." Moose, a year younger than Aldridge was in his 3rd year BTW has somehow plateaued. Give me a break.


That was due to the focus on Brandon Roy. Their 4th quarter offense was basically give the ball to Roy and get the hell out of the way...

For that reason, LMA was more of a mid range jump shooter and when Roy went down, he became the 1st option and posted up far more often. In a way, Roy going down gave LMA the opportunity to take a bigger role.

Moose doesn't have someone like that holding him back, and is not as athletic or skilled as LMA, nor does he have a consistent mid range J which LMA had since day 1.

I guess we'll see...I think on a team where there were other actual offensive threats, Moose would thrive because he usually does well when its just one on one in the post...


How exactly was Roy responsible for Aldridge's inability to rebound or play defense? Aldridge got better over time, as most young players do.


His per 36 rebounds have been nearly identical since he came into the league and he has played 35+ mpg since his 2nd year. TRB% pretty similar too. DRB% has improved a bit though, i'll give you that. Defense has too, but I feel like his defensive woes in earlier years aren't really comparable. His physical tools and athleticism have always given him the potential to be a solid defender.
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Re: Offseason Shakeup 

Post#50 » by Clarity » Tue Apr 2, 2013 8:04 pm

Stones48223 wrote:The Pistons are stale and need a new infusion of talent.

First I fire Frank and Hire Lionel Hollins or Mo Cheeks, or a Van Gundy brother.

Second I have to move Monroe for 2 reasons. It's easy to be the best player on a bad team, and move him before he wants a max contract, while his value is high.
I say we call up Okc and offer Moose and Jerebko for Ibaka and Pj3.
Or
Call up Boston and Offer Moose, Stuckey,Knight for Bass,Rondo,Bradley+pick.

Next Up sign JR Smith to a better offer than the Knicks can offer. Sign Toney Allen. Let Calderon walk.

Draft-if we get the trade from Okc ,I'm drafting Burke, If we get the Boston Trade, I'm taking Mclemore or Noel.

I've been a longtime lurker on this board, finally signed up.
I know there will be backlash from my ideas, but it kills me to see the Pistons this wack.

I think Ibaka and Drummond would cause havoc, Or Rondo/Burke and Drummond would be a great start to rebuild.


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